The main reason we lost was just not hitting shots we usualy make. We needed to rebound better and not quite so many three's, but all that is to be expected in our first road game. I have to say that i am glad I'm not a UNI fan because if I had to watch the slow down score 60 points a game style of play all the time I'd lose it. Boring as hell!
Hoiberg Coaching (at UNI)
- Thread starter ty4cy90
- Start date
I loves me Wayne Morgan.
It is that turd of a coach that UNI squirted out on poor Cyclone Nation I hate.
There was a lid on the basket tonight. But I was pleased with our effort. The guys played hard and had a shot to win it. We got outrebounded pretty bad.
I thought that Ben Jacobsen had the officials in his back pocket tonight. Jacobsen was constantly waayyyy out on the court. The officials should have T'd him up. In one instance I saw, Jacobsen was out on the court about 10 feet or more and it almost looked like he was about to set a pick on an ISU defender. And the UNI player with the ball was very near to Ben Jacobsen. That kind of BS shouldn't be tolerated. And there was a lot of "home cooking" in the officiating.
Overall, I thought we had fairly decent shots but they just didn't fall. UNI has won something like 18 in a row at home now. Now we know why.
I thought that Ben Jacobsen had the officials in his back pocket tonight. Jacobsen was constantly waayyyy out on the court. The officials should have T'd him up. In one instance I saw, Jacobsen was out on the court about 10 feet or more and it almost looked like he was about to set a pick on an ISU defender. And the UNI player with the ball was very near to Ben Jacobsen. That kind of BS shouldn't be tolerated. And there was a lot of "home cooking" in the officiating.
Overall, I thought we had fairly decent shots but they just didn't fall. UNI has won something like 18 in a row at home now. Now we know why.
UNI on the road is not a bad team and I believe that we will finish closer to the bottom than the top. Where do you think we will finish?
JVB is going to have a hard time doing much other than spotting up for 3's in Big 12. People just aren't going to allow him to score much, too easy to stop.
Very hard to control the tempo against UNI or Butler or any team that wants to play that way. You can't make them run and you can't beat them down the floor. So you have to grind it out with them. Texas A and M is another one that will do that.
Very hard to control the tempo against UNI or Butler or any team that wants to play that way. You can't make them run and you can't beat them down the floor. So you have to grind it out with them. Texas A and M is another one that will do that.
That's what I thought too. No Phillips = absolutely no depth, and we don't have a big guy shotblocker in the back to challenge a shot.
IMO ISU will play this game much differently next year with a full compliment of players.
I am surprised we didn't use JVB beyond the 3 point line a little more.
Probably around where 99% of people thought we will before the season started.
I didn't read the whole thread but it comes down to a few things that are going to be a problem all season:
1) Foul trouble will be a problem because (see #4)
2) Inexperience by some players we really count on
3) Can't force tempo if you don't have #4
4) Short bench
KU fell into this same trap last year in the tournement but the difference is Self had the bench to do the whole game what he did in the last couple of minutes - press and force the tempo. I remember Tim Floyd stating that it is easier to slow teams down than to speed them up - slowing the pace levels the court when one team has way more talent than the other.
This won't be the last time we see this turn out this way this year - our best case is NIT - which is okay with me.
1) Foul trouble will be a problem because (see #4)
2) Inexperience by some players we really count on
3) Can't force tempo if you don't have #4
4) Short bench
KU fell into this same trap last year in the tournement but the difference is Self had the bench to do the whole game what he did in the last couple of minutes - press and force the tempo. I remember Tim Floyd stating that it is easier to slow teams down than to speed them up - slowing the pace levels the court when one team has way more talent than the other.
This won't be the last time we see this turn out this way this year - our best case is NIT - which is okay with me.
Tough to speed things up if you can't buy a rebound. Coach Jake is a very good coach, and he has some experienced guards that know how to play his game. If you can beat the big dance top seed on a "neutral" court, you can coach. The refs were not very good, but the tempo of the game and our poor shooting and rebounding was what lost the game. I didn't think we'd go undefeated this year. I think CFH will be just fine.
I don't think that team was average. I think it was talented, but sucked it up and had to win those 7 games in a row to get mentioned for the tournament. That same 'great' team lost something like 4 conference games to start the conference season.
I don't hate Wayne, but if you take out those great 7 games, his teams always played pretty average.
You said it! We had a good game plan that had the game tied late on the road, I'm not sure what more some of these nay sayers want. Coaching has nothing to do with us not being able to chase down long, loose rebounds and we had wide open shots that normally fall that didn't. It happens in basketball, just ask Izzo and MSU, they just lost on the road, so does that mean he is a poor coach? This team is competing its *** off, relax and enjoy it and have Hilton rocking on Saturday!
CycloneErik
Well-Known Member
Historically, we owned UNI until Jake became the head coach. It's interesting to look at the historical record vs. UNI and look at our record against Jake.
It's not a knock on Fred, because I firmly believe he'll turn the tables. Jake is very good.
It's not a knock on Fred, because I firmly believe he'll turn the tables. Jake is very good.
My only criticism of CFH would be the last 5 minutes of the game. DG's 2 late 3's were just awful shots, I agree I think it had a lot to do with not being able to get a rythm going on offense but I really would have liked to see a timeout to kind of calm things down. But I think Freddie is doing a great job on the sidelines and games against a coach like Ben are going to be great learning experiences.
UNIs defense did a nice job of funneling DG to the bigs.
They took away passing lanes that lead to easy baskets.
Most of the kick outs had to be thrown over a player allowing
UNI time to recover. DG on occasion was able to get past the
bigs for circus layups but more often than not DG left the 12 ftr
short.
They took away passing lanes that lead to easy baskets.
Most of the kick outs had to be thrown over a player allowing
UNI time to recover. DG on occasion was able to get past the
bigs for circus layups but more often than not DG left the 12 ftr
short.
I do, and this thread is killing me. Questioning Fred's performance... WOW.
Tempo - hard to control the pace of the game when you get killed on the boards. Can't run if you don't have the ball. The inconsistent officiating also disrupted the flow of the game.
Getting JVB the ball. Did any of you actually watch the game? Several times in the first half they tried to get him going in the block - he didn't finish and struggled all game.
Set plays - offensive sets. We had many many open looks. Didn't shoot the ball well. No problems with our offensive sets. Out of time outs we generally had very good looks.
Allowing Jake an opportunity at the end. Any half decent college team can clamp down and stop/slow down at least 2 options. Remember Mac's comments after the Creighton game. They stopped Scott and JVB and dared Diante to beat them - he did. Early UNI focused on DG and let Scotty get some open looks. We raced out to the lead. With the way DG was shooting the ball last night, UNI gave him his looks at the end and dared him to pull us back into the game. With no transition due to poor rebounding - limited opportunities for looks elsewhere.
The only thing you could question is should Fred have pulled the ball out of DG's hand and let Jake run point late in the game. Haven't seen enough of his game yet to know if he has good enough handle to get to the rim off the bounce in a break down one-on-one situation. Scotty certainly can't and DG seems to be the best option at it.
Keep things in perspective. We were tied with a minute to go; on the road; against a respectable team with some veteran experience at the guard spots; in a inconsistently officiated game; were in foul trouble and limited bench; we played poorly; and shot even worse than poorly. Ultimately we didn't win the game, but I think the coach staff is just fine, evident by the fact that we were in the game!
I guess I saw something different. I saw a player wave at the bench "don't send someone in" as Freddy was getting his replacement up. He was trying to tell his coach that he knew it was his fourth and he knew what he had to do to play smart with 4 fouls.
Your coach was a fool if he didn't know when you got your fourth foul. How many times did the looking at your shoes and hiding behind your center thing work for you?
A good coach that has a upperclassmen that he feels he can trust and is telling him that he knows the situation and what he needs to do is more likely to leave that player in than the player who is playing dumb and trying to hide from the coach. The coach is left wondering in that case. Does he know he has 4? Does he realize what I need him to do if I leave him in?
Yikes! I hope you are the head recruiter for the Hawkeyes with those evaluations of talent. Stinson is hands down the best player we've had since Tinsley. I like Jake, but to compare him to Curtis is insane.
The only one I might give you would be Ejim vs. Clark.
Latest posts
-
-
-
Christian Wiggins out for the 2026-27 season with a torn achilles
- Latest: xr4ticlone
-
Artificial Intelligence: How are you using it in everyday life?
- Latest: Cmonwhatarewedoinghereman
-
