Fire Mouser

[deadeyededric]

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The trend does not look good. A good defensive staff is making good players out of poor recruits. I wonder if throwing and catching has the same learning curve as the other positions? Some offensive players just don't improve over time. Is that from poor coaching? poor learning? injury avoidance? We clearly have fewer offensive injuries the last few years.

You either have hands or you don't. Its not something you can improve the same way you can tackling or coverage. Route running is something guys can improve. For running backs I feel like guys pretty much either have vision or they don't. Its generally what separates guys on the depth chart. RB's can Improve where they carry the ball and how well they hang on to it.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

The fact that we don’t have an identity when we have 2 backs that can legit run for 150+ ypg is the exact problem. Mouser wants us to be this cutesy play design, QB driven offense but our QB sucks right now and our receivers cannot consistently catch. Why continue to throw when we can run the ball?

We threw 8 passes the entire second half, let that be our identity and sprinkle in some throws when needed.

I am not sure we have the backs to just plan on running the ball 40 times a game, the best offensives tend to be balanced, with roughly the same amount of runs to throws. We miss a lot because we refuse to use Rocco running the ball until we get down to the end zone. All season long the QB boot has been there, when we ran it yesterday he picked up an easy 8 yards. Why are we not doing it more, we have all seen that Rocco can take a hit, if need be, so he should be running the ball and keep the defense guesses.
The maddening thing is this offense shows flashes of being very good, but then we drop the pass or pick up a silly penalty or just get dropped for a lose and then cannot get back on schedule.

 

[cycloneworld]

Maybe I don't remember correctly, but weren't most of us singing Mouser's praises last year when we won 11 games? There's an old saying, "Be careful what you wish for."

I think most rational fans don’t really want him fired, at least I hope not. He’s shown flashes of being really good. For me, I want him to adjust and lean into the team’s strength, which is running the ball more than relying on his preferences for calling a game. Because he hasn’t shown much ability to adjust in game and week to week this year.

He’s still young, I think he’ll learn but just like the receivers dropping balls, he isn’t the reason the offense isn’t very good but he’s certainly not helping.

 

[NetflixAndClone]

I think most rational fans don’t really want him fired, at least I hope not. He’s shown flashes of being really good. For me, I want him to adjust and lean into the team’s strength, which is running the ball more than relying on his preferences for calling a game. Because he hasn’t shown much ability to adjust in game and week to week this year.

He’s still young, I think he’ll learn but just like the receivers dropping balls, he isn’t the reason the offense isn’t very good but he’s certainly not helping.

I actually think there are things he does better this year than last year. The big one I point to is passing on first down. Last year it always felt like we never passed on first down and if we did we 100% ran in 2nd. This year we actually seen him pass on first and even following it with another pass.

I do agree that he seems to not lean into our strengths and often I feel like once we get to the red zone we switch it up from the exact thing that got us to the red zone. However I think execution is the bigger problem than play calling.

 

[flycy]

I didn’t see the TCU game but was listening on the radio before a wedding. I thought I heard. “ Cyclones take over on TCU 41. Direct snap to Brahmer - pass to Becht - double pass not open - intentional grounding - spot of the pass and loss of down! “. Did that play look as futile as it sounded? Mouser take a lap and come back when you’re ready to call a P5 football game rather than something you cooked up on Madden!!!

I actually don't see why grounding was called, clearly outside the tackle box and clearly beyond the line of scrimmage.

 

[CycloneErik]

He doesn’t, he just wants to fire Campbell. That’s his whole schtick.

Well, after he posts yet another winning record, like he will this year, firing him is the obvious choice.

 

[AllInForISU]

I actually don't see why grounding was called, clearly outside the tackle box and clearly beyond the line of scrimmage.

The tackle box exception only applies to the player who receives the snap. Once the player who receives the snap gives the ball to another player, the throw has to be in the vicinity of a WR.

NCAA Rulebook 7-3-2-h-exc

 

[madguy30]

Well, after he posts yet another winning record, like he will this year, firing him is the obvious choice.

I never thought 'not even' winning conference titles would be the rationale for getting rid of an ISU football coach but maybe a revolving door is the best approach at this point in time.

 

[hoosman]

You either have hands or you don't. Its not something you can improve the same way you can tackling or coverage. Route running is something guys can improve. For running backs I feel like guys pretty much either have vision or they don't. Its generally what separates guys on the depth chart. RB's can Improve where they carry the ball and how well they hang on to it.

I watched the TCU replay last night. Did you know that Hansen had 2 HUGE close calls on fumbles? He bobbled the the handoffs on his first touchdown and on his last carry for a first down.

You either have hands or you don't. Its not something you can improve the same way you can tackling or coverage. Route running is something guys can improve. For running backs I feel like guys pretty much either have vision or they don't. Its generally what separates guys on the depth chart. RB's can Improve where they carry the ball and how well they hang on to it.

Oddly, Hansen nearly had 2 huge fumbles against TCU. His first touchdown was a bobbled handoff, and his first down run at the end of the game was also a loose ball.

 

[CascadeClone]

People arguing about player execution vs Mouser play calling like they are mutually exclusive. Far from it.

Now, Mouser is ultimately responsible for execution too, but that's also the position coaches too.

What kills me about the play calling this year is:
1. about 1 play of 4, they basically throw something in there random or weird that just wastes a play. and they just aren't good enough to overcome that and get first downs. its like taking a sack, a drive killer.
2. they forget about the run sometimes. the OL has actually been pretty good run blocking, and Rocco has been very off since Cincy. Maybe let's just run it more. I can't stand the 3 pass plays 3 and outs. if we can't score lots of points, then for gods sake shorten the game by running more.

All that said, there's times when guys were in good spots and they blow it.

• Rocco has been hearing footsteps and is anxious instead of confident.
• Rocco has been inaccurate, especially short passes.
• Drops drops drops.
• Penalties! First 5 games = 2.7 penalties per game. Last 5 games = 6.8 penalties per game

They need both pieces of the puzzle to outscore people.

Last year, I think Rocco was so good Mouser trusted him implicitly and he bailed them out of a lot of problems. This year, Rocco is not getting it done nearly as well, but Mouser is still treating him that way. I think Mouser needs to protect Rocco a bit more, and not treat him like a cheat code when he is clearly not at his best.

 

[Peter]

People arguing about player execution vs Mouser play calling like they are mutually exclusive. Far from it.

Now, Mouser is ultimately responsible for execution too, but that's also the position coaches too.

What kills me about the play calling this year is:
1. about 1 play of 4, they basically throw something in there random or weird that just wastes a play. and they just aren't good enough to overcome that and get first downs. its like taking a sack, a drive killer.
2. they forget about the run sometimes. the OL has actually been pretty good run blocking, and Rocco has been very off since Cincy. Maybe let's just run it more. I can't stand the 3 pass plays 3 and outs. if we can't score lots of points, then for gods sake shorten the game by running more.

All that said, there's times when guys were in good spots and they blow it.

• Rocco has been hearing footsteps and is anxious instead of confident.
• Rocco has been inaccurate, especially short passes.
• Drops drops drops.
• Penalties! First 5 games = 2.7 penalties per game. Last 5 games = 6.8 penalties per game

They need both pieces of the puzzle to outscore people.

Last year, I think Rocco was so good Mouser trusted him implicitly and he bailed them out of a lot of problems. This year, Rocco is not getting it done nearly as well, but Mouser is still treating him that way. I think Mouser needs to protect Rocco a bit more, and not treat him like a cheat code when he is clearly not at his best.

Can't coach execution, but you can scheme up some gimmies to try to get Rocco into a groove. At this point, I think you almost treat Rocco like its his first ever start and try to get some easy completions to build confidence.

With all the injuries on defense and the anemia of special teams (prior to last week) it's pretty obvious that Rocco has been putting too much on his shoulders and trying to play hero ball for the team. He just needs to make the easy plays and the rest of the team needs to step up and show him that they have his back.

 

[soccercy]

Can't coach execution, but you can scheme up some gimmies to try to get Rocco into a groove. At this point, I think you almost treat Rocco like its his first ever start and try to get some easy completions to build confidence.

With all the injuries on defense and the anemia of special teams (prior to last week) it's pretty obvious that Rocco has been putting too much on his shoulders and trying to play hero ball for the team. He just needs to make the easy plays and the rest of the team needs to step up and show him that they have his back.

It feels like the only routes we throw to are tight angles running at the sidelines, and short of the first down yard to gain. Almost nothing simple across middle, etc. All difficult throws...

 

[VeloClone]

Don’t completely disagree but he’s 21-21 in conference the last 5 years. There’s a reason he’s no longer mentioned in all of these coaching searches.

Are you serious, Clark. He's mentioned in pretty much every one.

 

[isufbcurt]

It feels like the only routes we throw to are tight angles running at the sidelines, and short of the first down yard to gain. Almost nothing simple across middle, etc. All difficult throws...

We run a lot of long developing routes.

How about some quick stuff to X to get him in space.

 

[CycloneVet]

Even through this stretch, the drives Rocco gets rolling he is usually at least decent. The ones he doesn’t yikes

 

[VeloClone]

I think this thread is an abomination, but there is one thing that has been bothering me that I have not seen a single person discuss. There are multiple plays a game that I can unequivocably predict are a running play. It has nothing to do with the personnel, but rather the formation. And I am not talking about having everyone in a tight formation, ISU has thrown passes over the top to TEs out of those formations. I am talking about formations where we have TEs covered by WRs or WRs covered by other WRs. I know that we aren't going to pass out of these formations because we have created way too many ineligible receivers due to the formation. And it happens way too often to just be player error.

If an idiot like me is noticing it you know damned well our opponents are. This can easily be corrected by running the same play with the proper number of players on the line rather than too many players on the line. Why are we running so many of these plays that broadcast to anyone paying attention that it has to be a running play?

 

[VeloClone]

I didn’t see the TCU game but was listening on the radio before a wedding. I thought I heard. “ Cyclones take over on TCU 41. Direct snap to Brahmer - pass to Becht - double pass not open - intentional grounding - spot of the pass and loss of down! “. Did that play look as futile as it sounded? Mouser take a lap and come back when you’re ready to call a P5 football game rather than something you cooked up on Madden!!!

Someone explain to me how you get intentional grounding when you throw a pass from 15 yards outside the tackle box and it lands 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.

EDIT: Should have kept reading, someone answered that. Brahmer should have fought through that block even after Rocco released the throw. If he is within 15 yards of the throw they probably don't throw that flag.

 

[VeloClone]

You either have hands or you don't. Its not something you can improve the same way you can tackling or coverage. Route running is something guys can improve. For running backs I feel like guys pretty much either have vision or they don't. Its generally what separates guys on the depth chart. RB's can Improve where they carry the ball and how well they hang on to it.

You apparently never watched Melvin Ejim as a freshman...

 

[CyNews]

Time to bench becht. He's not the only problem but is a big problem!

Stupid comment. He’s a gamer!

 

[CyNews]

I want Heacock to retire. He is 65.

No.