*** COACHING SEARCH THREAD: Thursday, June 4 ***

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I just don't feel this is the time or place for TJ to become a head coach for the first time.

I just don't get how people are ABSOLUTELY SURE that this is the case, purely by looking at his resume. The two people who would know best whether TJ is ready to be a head coach are Pollard and Hoiberg, because they've both worked with him. Pollard has worked with him for most of the last 10 years.

I relate this back to my job. I'm in a management position that I would have never been chosen for if my resume had blindly come in the door, but the hiring manager had worked with me for almost 10 years, had seen me do all the tasks involved in the positions and in many respects "groomed" me for the position. Sometimes you know someone is ready for a job based off of their performance over a long period of time. That shouldn't be discounted simply because another resume looks better.

But none of that matters, because there is a subsection of our fanbase that implicitly distrusts Pollard for what ever reason and no matter what choice he makes, they will dislike it because he was the one making the choice.
 
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Means little.what if I told you that in 1994 Oral Roberts had 498 TOs to 450 assists...that's right 498 turnovers...in a season and ranked 191st in pts scored? Oh and btw...the cosch was Bill Self.

you close to finishing that list?
 
So with Pollard's M.O. for previous coaching searches it seems that when names are leaked that none of those people end up being the guy. Now with Prohm, Underwood, and Drew being mentioned for interviews this weekend, does that mean that those guys are just smoke screens for the real hire?

Time to join the #TeamMysteryCandidates bandwagon now.
 
These threads get so long too quick I don't have time to read all the reponses. Jeremy I like the things you're sharing, I'm glad Leath is pushing Pollard to explore options and not have such a narrow search like he usually does. If you think about it when we fired Morgan it was basically GMac and I can't even remember the name anymore who at the time was a hot coach in Milwaukee I think. When we hired Fred not sure we even considered anyone else did we? This opening comes with a program on the verge of great things and I think it's great that Leath sees that we need to be very thorough with the process and not just anoint TJ because it's convenient and he has relationships with the players already. The program is at the point we should not just settle for the easy out and there are probably well qualified and proven coaches that we should evaluate before making this decision. We can't just look at putting all our eggs in 1 basket for this upcoming season, there is going to be a very crucial transition period right after this year and we have to have the right guy in place to be able to not fall back into mediocrity like we did under Morgan and GMac.

If you go back and look at Pollard's hires he has never done a very thorough search and other than Fred he's missed more times than he's hit a home run. What looked like great hires at the time turned out to be poor choices. Chizik blew up in our face, GMac was a bad fit, Rhoads looked good early on but now his job is on the line this season, Cael did well but we ultimately pushed a legend out the door to hire him then he turned around and screwed the program over when he left and took a bunch of guys with him and now we have Jackson who somehow got an extension for mediocrity. See a trend here... can we name anyone we were in talks with when we were searching for coaches at those times because the candidate pool was very small in all cases if I recall. I hope they are bringing in 4+ people to interview, 1 of them that Pollard may not have thought of as a top choice might just blow him away when they sit down and discuss the job or 1 of them may bring up something that Pollard wasn't considering and allow him to look at the search in a different light. This is not a bad thing people, ultimately after interviewing 4+ people if TJ is the guy Pollard and Leath think is the right guy then I am onboard but I'm glad to hear that Pollard is being pushed to not rush to a choice and evaluate all options.

speaking of too long and not having time to read
 
I don't care if ISU averaged 50 points a game as long as they held the other team to 40 points a game. ISU isn't a big name school where the AD can be picky like that. The most important thing is winning when talking about on the court stuff.

Playing up-tempo might help this current team but ISU should look at the bigger picture here, beyond next year.

FAIL!
 
It's because all the d-bags that feel the need to pump themselves up by posting idiotic gifs and smart *** replies...I'd pay good money for a subscription-only version to decrease the juvenile rif-raf...

There are subscription-only versions out there. Go there if you don't want to have a sense of humor. Sorry that some of us want to add a little levity.
 
My data plan can't take another two weeks of this. (Refresh, refresh, refresh!)
 
I deleted my earlier post because TJ had been here 3 years, versus the 2 I was thinking. So he does have better Hoiball roots than I thought. I do still think that he would be a stronger candidate if he had stayed here versus going to Washington, especially if he is to be looked at as Fred's heir.
 
I like Underwood over Prohm and Drew. No thanks to those 2 guys. You have been pushing Prohm. No ties to our territory. Has only been at Murray State. Lost his top assistant to La Tech. Poor defensive rebounding team. Has low assist ratio. And has been really turnover prone. Elaborate on WHY you think this guy is so great again.
Because he's an excellent coach. I can safely assume that all coaches will have better results with better players. He has done a tremendous job with the caliber of player he has had available to him. Yes, recruiting is part of that but you are simply only going to get a certain caliber of player to go to Murray State. Bottom line is that NO hire is foolproof and guaranteed to work out; Otzelberger included.
 
I just don't get how people are ABSOLUTELY SURE that this is the case, purely by looking at his resume. The two people who would know best whether TJ is ready to be a head coach are Pollard and Hoiberg, because they've both worked with him. Pollard has worked with him for most of the last 10 years.

I relate this back to my job. I'm in a management position that I would have never been chosen for if my resume had blindly come in the door, but the hiring manager had worked with my for almost 10 year, had seen me do all the tasks involved in the positions and in many respects "groomed" me for the position. Sometimes you know someone is ready for a job based off of their performance over a long period of time. That shouldn't be discounted simply because another resume looks better.

But none of that matters, because there is a subsection of our fanbase that implicitly distrusts Pollard for what ever reason and no matter what choice he makes, they will dislike it because he was the one making the choice.

100% dead on. People who are so against hiring someone with little leadership experience likely have never held a position where they had to hire someone.
 
Please share with us any part of this? Who are the buddy system hires?

People seem to think JP is buddies with CPR and TJ. Well they may have become friends in their time working together, but prior to their employment relationship they were not friends. It is just a delusion people have come up with to justify their angles.
 
It's because all the d-bags that feel the need to pump themselves up by posting idiotic gifs and smart *** replies...I'd pay good money for a subscription-only version to decrease the juvenile rif-raf...
GET OFF MY LAWN YOU WHIPPERSNAPPERS!
 
100% dead on. People who are so against hiring someone with little leadership experience likely have never held a position where they had to hire someone.

Or been in a position where you knew you weren't the most qualified, but were absolutely the best fit.
 
I got some requests for this again so will throw it out there. Here are some posts I made today with various pieces of information...

Regarding Lansing...

FYI Lansing is the one putting his name out there. He personally reached out to ISU as well as local media and insiders to help pump him up. I know that from first hand experience.

Regarding Weekend Interviews...

Don't assume that only those 4 will interview - it's at least those 4...

Regarding The Search & Leaks / Friction

I was just talking to some people about that. While I absolutely think it's important for Leath to push JP out of his comfort zone - because let's be honest, all of his searches have been very limited in scope/breadth - there is a line that he can't cross of being too integrated into the actual process.

I will add that while people love what JP has done, there are a lot [redacted] that feel he's great at working the donors, building excitement, etc but can't be fully trusted to make the call on coaches. He has a narrow focus on those that he feels he has considered to lead the various programs and his mind is set from there on. Donors don't like that because they are fanatics just like everybody else and want to be excited. Leath doesn't like it because he wants to constantly push the bar higher (rightfully so).
Ya, the search that landed Chizzy was very limited and included names like Brian Kelly and Jim Harbaugh. C'mon. Morgan's replacement wasn't all that limited after that.

Now Rhoads and Hoiberg were differnet because after chizzy...JP obvioulsy wanted people familiar with iSU and who knew what iSu was about. Peoplethought the Rhoads hire was good two years ago and I am pretty people are high on Fred's work.

I guess JP should go back to what didn't work
 
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