Bubu Thread

[CycloneWanderer]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

The chances of the NCAA granting him a waiver in that situation allowing him to play are exactly 0.00001% regardless of support from the university.

 

[LutherBlue]

When it gets really bad I wear one of those stainless spaghetti strainers.

Anyway... I have a really hard time believing it took 4 months to rule on an appeal to Leath. Seriously. Ask yourself why?

Would be nice and cool in the summer, I might give it a try.

 

[CycloneErik]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

Hey CyDude16, based on your replies on all the message boards, I believe that your views are not too popular with the Men's BB Team.

And? That's about as relevant as the Hayes-Tilden Controversy to this issue.
Who cares if people like it?

 

[JAB]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

Bubu's dismissal left plenty of time to figure out a transfer. He and his attorney didnt request one, although ISU and Pollard clearly were okay with one had he applied. Maybe Bubu looked around and didnt like the options. But staying was clearly a bad decision. Not the first he's ever made.

It's way too early to declare that his "staying was clearly a bad decision". This story is far from over.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

ill be the guy in this shirt and the tinoil hat on Saturday.

Boo Boo Road Warrior T Shirt from Zazzle.com

 

[CYlent Bob]

Would be nice and cool in the summer, I might give it a try.

with or without the handles?

 

[CYKOFAN]

You don't have to buy my story,in fact, I know most of you think i'm lying.I just relayed parts of a conversation I had. My opinion is if Bubu is found to not do anything he should play as long as Hoiberg wants to play him based on how good of a basketball player Bubu is.

I don't think you're lying. I just think if ISU had any proof or any evidence whatsoever he committed a crime and was a danger to students, he would have been kicked out immediately. And the information should have been given to the county attorney.

 

[Nycclone]

There are main questions that I can't wrap my head around:

Is the reinstatement hearing in front of an Administrative Law Judge typical?

And how did this case end up getting appealed to Leath?

From seeing numerous other athletes, recently Gary and Irving, suspended and then return, I believe it is normal for the ALJ to hear their case and then reinstate them. But I haven't heard of any other case that has been appealed to the President.

Does anyone know the process for that appeal and who can make it and why?

Students facing a situation similar to bubu have the option of having their case heard in front of an all university judiciary or an alj. Auj would consist of 5 faculty members, five grad students and ten undergrad students chosen by gsb. Bubu chose the alj. In either case, there is an option for appeal which would be heard by the university president.

 

[tim_redd]

When it gets really bad I wear one of those stainless spaghetti strainers.

Anyway... I have a really hard time believing it took 4 months to rule on an appeal to Leath. Seriously. Ask yourself why?

 

[clonedude]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

I wonder how fun it will be for Leath to be boo'd by the students Saturday?

Does Leath usually come and sit in his seat just before tip off? If so, yes, I think they should boo him as he walks to his seat.

Then follow that with a "We want Bubu!!!" chant. I think that would be appropriate in this case.

 

[kilgore_trout]

This is the worst kind of post. It's anonymous, suggestive, judgmental and yet is so vague that it is impossible to argue with or disprove.

-1 IHavNoCyCash, you suck.

I've talked to some staff members and they say Bubu did do something. I had the same arguments as you guys did about him not getting proven of having any wrongdoing but they said they are 100% sure he did something. They didn't say anything else when I pressed them about it. I just feel something is being hidden that the fans might never know about with this.

 

[JAB]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

And? That's about as relevant as the Hayes-Tilden Controversy to this issue.
Who cares if people like it?

CycloneErik, I believe the vast majority of fans care about how our student-athletes are being treated and if they are being handled fairly. Unfortunately, based on your replies on the message boards, I don't think you or CyDude16 are a part of the vast majority - and that is relevant.

 

[CycloneErik]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

Does Leath usually come and sit in his seat just before tip off? If so, yes, I think they should boo him as he walks to his seat.

Then follow that with a "We want Bubu!!!" chant. I think that would be appropriate in this case.

That sounds like an ignorant idea. I think I might boo Cyclone Alley at that point.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Don't hold your breath. It is becoming increasingly clear to me - and I wonder if others feel the same way - that some people here just want to keep this going as long as possible. I have no idea what their motivation is - and it is becoming increasingly clear - that it has little if anything to do with Bubu. This whole situation is a perfect example of people using a few known facts and a huge amount of speculation - that after awhile is treated as fact - to keep this going. It's absolutely amazing. We get lathered up when the press does this - a few facts and a major bruha - but man-oh-man, this takes the cake. I am certain that many who post here are legitimate, and concerned about the situation at many levels, but if we knew the truth, there is much more here than meets the eye.

You do know that last week ESPN, CBS Sports and FOX Sports had articles about the case don't you? And apparently ESPN ran another article tonight, so they appear to be following this closely. Don't think you can lay the shelf life of this ongoing mess on some posters who are concerned about the long term damage this could be doing to ISU sports.

 

[CycloneErik]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

CycloneErik, I believe the vast majority of fans care about how our student-athletes are being treated and if they are being handled fairly. Unfortunately, based on your replies on the message boards, I don't think you or CyDude16 are a part of the vast majority - and that is relevant.

I think you're defining "handled fairly" as "gladhandled."
In a case like this, people will automatically side with the athlete. I'm just here pointing out that he's not exactly ideal here, either.

 

[BigBake]

I've talked to some staff members and they say Bubu did do something. I had the same arguments as you guys did about him not getting proven of having any wrongdoing but they said they are 100% sure he did something. They didn't say anything else when I pressed them about it. I just feel something is being hidden that the fans might never know about with this.

Fine then kick him off the team last year and be done with it. Leath and Co bungled this big time and the ISU Bball program is getting a black eye because of their incompetence.

 

[klamath632]

This. It's crazy how many pro-bubu people can't grasp this.

There have been blunders on both sides of the fence during this, but you know what, had Bubu not committed any of those actions on that night that put his innocence or guilt into question, we wouldn't have this mess.

It all just needs to go away FFS.

This isn't BYU. We don't kick kids off the team for having sex.

 

[CYlent Bob]

Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

That sounds like an ignorant idea. I think I might boo Cyclone Alley at that point.

WTF is wrong with you dude?

Anyone with half a brain would boo CA regardless of how they treat Leath.

 

[CyDude16]

This isn't BYU. We don't kick kids off the team for having sex.

But having sex while intoxicated (limiting consent) goes against student code of conduct at Iowa State. Going to ignore that? Are many students guilty of it? Yep, but doesn't mean if brought up, you can use that as a scapegoat to the rule break.

 

[jkclone]

But having sex while intoxicated (limiting consent) goes against student code of conduct at Iowa State. Going to ignore that? Are many students guilty of it? Yep, but doesn't mean if brought up, you can use that as a scapegoat to the rule break.

You can use the argument that he is being singled out though.