Bubu Thread

[IASTATE4LIFE]

anybody know how a member of the BOR becomes on the BOR?

 

[bawbie]

anybody know how a member of the BOR becomes on the BOR?

Appointment by the governor and approval by the State Senate, I believe.

 

[RayShimley]

anybody know how a member of the BOR becomes on the BOR?

Appointed by the Governor, confirmed by the State Senate.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

I have no idea what you are asking.

The answer is Bubu doesn't get to play basketball.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

He wouldn't? The AD who has in his time at ISU managed to double the athletic budget, built a new basketball practice facility, built a new football facility, built a new sports complex for smaller sports by the towers, is pushing through the South Endzone project which has been talked about since the late 70's and never been done, is a highly respected AD among his peers, and the guy who was the voice of the Big XII AD's during the conference realignment mess? Ever heard Dodds from Texas defer commenting to anyone else on any issues besides declining to comment on Big XII AD discussions and directing all questions to JP? Anyone know who is credited with developing the fiscal plans at Wisconsin that have led to major budget increases, major facility upgrades, etc... that have now shown themselves in the Badger's rise to a higher level of athletic success? I'll give you a hint... He is the current AD at ISU. Strange how things have improved dramatically since he arrived at ISU right?

People are losing their minds over this and forgetting the credibility that a guy like JP has earned over his relatively short time at ISU. His impact on the ISU athletic department is off the charts.

If we lose Fred over this, JP and Leath should be gone. Of course they won't, because the entity that would make that choice is the BoR, which seems equally dirty over this whole thing.

 

[CycloneErik]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

If we lose Fred over this, JP and Leath should be gone. Of course they won't, because the entity that would make that choice is the BoR, which seems equally dirty over this whole thing.

We're not losing Fred over this, unless he's a coward that can't handle losing a marginal player who chose to do something stupid.

 

[buf87]

Regardless, why not make the decision in a reasonable amount of time which would have allowed the transfer.

I think in the end, Fred is gone for the NBA due to this. Last week, Leath and Pollard basically forced Fred's hand to not allow Bubu to play with that statement. I believe them not allowing Fred to run his own program is going to be what pushes the NBA over the top.

Again, I do not know the answer. But does anybody really know if Fred wants Bubu back on the team? I have read that the players do, but have never seen anything from Fred either way. And I don't expect to. I think a lot of speculation on the topic and very few have the whole story.

 

[IdahoCyclone]

Dear The Man,

This is ******* embarrassing; Just let the kid play the last 20 games. He was innocent, let the kid play.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

quick question. bubu used his redshirt already. If he transferred wouldn't he have to sit out a year so he couldn't play anyway?

 

[Agclone91]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

We're not losing Fred over this, unless he's a coward that can't handle losing a marginal player who chose to do something stupid.

I don't know why people think Fred is going to walk. Seriously, if we're going to lose him it was going to happen anyway. It has nothing to do with the Leath and BuBu ******* match. Fred has done an excellent job of staying out of this entire thing from the start.

 

[IdahoCyclone]

You are correct Sir.

 

[Judoka]

quick question. bubu used his redshirt already. If he transferred wouldn't he have to sit out a year so he couldn't play anyway?

Basketball seems to get away with transfers on the flimsiest of circumstances. But if he went D-II or D-III he could have played right away even without appealing.

 

[chuckd4735]

quick question. bubu used his redshirt already. If he transferred wouldn't he have to sit out a year so he couldn't play anyway?

D1 yes, D2 no.

 

[theCyBooty]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

We're not losing Fred over this, unless he's a coward that can't handle losing a marginal player who chose to do something stupid.

It wouldn't be over losing Bubu, it would be over the handling of this and the incompetence of Leath

 

[Clonefan94]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

We're not losing Fred over this, unless he's a coward that can't handle losing a marginal player who chose to do something stupid.

Just wondering if there is any real basis, other than people's opinions and wild speculation from over-reaction, that make them think Fred is going to the NBA over this?

I know everyone on here is talking about this like it is the end all be all of college basketball, but seriously some of you posters need to get over yourselves. (not you Eric, your post just made me think of posting this because I agree with you.) Really, outside of Iowa, no one is talking about this on a regular basis. It isn't some kind of super scandal that's going to bring down the University. I live in a Chicago burb and honestly, if it weren't for this board, I'd have no idea that any of this was going on.

Granted, I don't listen all day, but I haven't even heard them mention this on ESPN radio. I'm sure they have, but if it were the program crushing deal that some of you are making this out to be, I'd hear about it on my way to work, at lunch or on my way home.

Maybe I am just misinformed, but it seems like something that will go away as soon as the season is over and no one will remember it.

 

[RayShimley]

He could've tried to graduate over the summer so he could transfer and play immediately. Not far-fetched considering he has been here 4 years and has been outstanding academically.

 

[CycloneErik]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

It wouldn't be over losing Bubu, it would be over the handling of this and the incompetence of Leath

I don't respect people that can't face adversity. If Fred can't face what you're calling incompetence, then that makes a man a coward.

For now, stop freaking out. Fred stayed out of it. He's a smart guy that isn't leaving over this kind of crap.
Another day, another Bubu thread dragging the discussion down.

 

[jbhtexas]

To those supporting the BoR, Leath, and Pollard. Are you saying Bubu raped the female in question?

From page 11 of the latest AG court document:

President Leath concluded that the weight of the evidence established that the Complaintant had not consented to a sexual relationship with Palo. The President analyzed the evidence in light of the definition of consent set forth in the university's sexual misconduct policy, something the ALJ failed to do. The evidence relied upon by the President to support this conclusion included medical testimony, admissions by Palo, and uncontested evidence regarding the events that occurred immediately prior to the sexual encounter wiht Palo. President Leath's decision was well-reasoned, supported by substantial evidence, and correctly analyzed the student disciplinary regulation Palo was charged with violating. Neither the district court nor Palo identified any part of the record to support a claim that President Leath erroneously applied the law or that he made findings of fact without support in the record.

I guess it comes down to the difference between non-consensual sex and rape. I'm not sure what that is.

The above paragraph sums it up nicely. In the motion to the district court, Palo's lawyers don't present any arguments showing where Leath erred in his decision (you can read it in Exhibit I). All they seem to be arguing is that the university hurt Palo by making the decision too late, that a previous decision ruled in Palo's favor, that the criminal charges were dropped, that the BOR is wrong for various reason in its assertion that Palo's chance for success in his appeal is low, and that the university and public would suffer no harm if a stay was granted.

It seems that Palo would have an easy victory if his lawyers could show that Leath made logical errors in his decision, or if they could show that Leath's findings are not based on evidence in the record. But they aren't doing that. Instead, they are arguing peripheral matters rather than directly taking on Leath's decision.

Why not take on Leath's decision directly (i.e. showing that his argument is flawed), instead of indirectly (i.e. saying that Leath's decision disagreed with a previous decision).

 

[buf87]

Does Fred want Bubu on the team? I know the players do, but have never heard Fred does. I think it is a distraction that Fred does not want during the season.

 

[Nycclone]

He already graduated. Masters degree exception.