Bubu Thread

clonedude

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I would argue that the Iowa State coaches should be behind this move. If a court can overrule the university and/or the BOR, then they can sure as heck overrule a coach's decision too.

Why would you say that? Fred doesn't have to play Bubu if he doesn't want to. No court can tell him that. Even Bubu knows that. When interviewed, Bubu said he doesn't care if he doesn't play in games, he just wants to help out anyway he can.... even if that means just being a really good scout team player in practice.

So Bubu knows his playing time is all up to Fred. That isn't going to change at all.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Never the less, it will probably be a month before the Supreme Court considers the case and another month before they reach a decision if they decide to go forward. By that time, ISU's season will probably be over.

I don't think this is right. They are just deciding whether to keep the stay or not. They will likely decide that quickly.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

There is tremendous irony in an administration that uses their power in an abusive fashion.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Somebody knows what is going on here. Clearly someone or something really really doesn't want bubu playing basketball. Really amazing no one knows what the hell is going on here.

This has nothing to do with Bubu playing basketball at this point. It has everything to do with precedent.
 

clonedude

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I'm curious... didn't one of Bubu's parents work at Iowa State, or is that not true?

If so, I wonder how this is affecting that relationship?
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

A lot of sexual assault cases get tossed out due to it being his word vs hers.

Yes and fortunately in this case the girl lied according to 3 very credible witnesses and tried to fabricate evidence, so she was not credible to either the county attorney or alj. Fortunately this wasn't one of those classic he said-she said situations so please quit saying it was. What this girl did should outrage those that have legitimate sexual assault cases.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I would argue that the Iowa State coaches should be behind this move. If a court can overrule the university and/or the BOR, then they can sure as heck overrule a coach's decision too.

Seriously? You would put a coach's decision over those of a court, in protecting the interests and right of appeal of a student athlete? Or you would take the decisions of the University, AD, or BOR over the court?
 
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How many times does it need to be stated that this appeal is not by ISU?

On my mobile and didn't have time to read through the entire ******* thread.

And now I have time. Either way, it opens the door for Bubu's lawyer, if a civil suit is filed, to bring in all sorts of ideas about malicious intent.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I suppose. But we all realize that there is no proof that a crime was committed, right? It was investigated and charges were dropped.

This exactly why I'm so puzzled by all this. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like he is basically being called guilty just because charges were brought forward at the beginning.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Is anyone outside of the Iowa sports media really talking about this? You guys make it sound like the world is ending. Leath or Pollard being fired or resigning over this? It's not going to happen and it's ridiculous that anyone could seriously believe that.
 

IlliniCy

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Why would you say that? Fred doesn't have to play Bubu if he doesn't want to. No court can tell him that. Even Bubu knows that. When interviewed, Bubu said he doesn't care if he doesn't play in games, he just wants to help out anyway he can.... even if that means just being a really good scout team player in practice.

So Bubu knows his playing time is all up to Fred. That isn't going to change at all.
I'm not talking about playing time issues I'm talking about whether or not a player can remain on the team if he breaks a team rule. A coach can always bench a player.
 

clonedude

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Their is tremendous irony in an administration that uses their power in an abusive fashion.

Yeah, JP would be the first one to fight for keeping an athlete on the team if a judge ordered that they couldn't be on the team anymore, so why isn't he fighting FOR Bubu?

That's why something fishy is going on here. PLENTY of student athletes that probably had no business whatsoever suiting up for Iowa State in the past have been allowed to. So what's different with Bubu?
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

The worst part of all of this is that it will be an even bigger distraction for the team and coaches, as though they do not have enough problems already.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Is anyone outside of the Iowa sports media really talking about this? You guys make it sound like the world is ending. Leath or Pollard being fired or resigning over this? It's not going to happen and it's ridiculous that anyone could seriously believe that.

I think people, myself included, are just ****** that it has come this far over something that never should have been ruled the way it was to begin with.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Anyone who thinks Leath and especially JP need to resign because of this is an absolute moron. JP has done more for ISU athletics than anyone. Plus if you read the article, and judging by the first 2 pages of posts, you haven't, this is the Iowa BOR not Leath and Pollard. But hey, who needs to actually read the article and have a clue about what they are talking about before spewing misdirected ignorant hate?
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

This administration is having other cases taken to higher courts. Google the Dennis Smith whistleblower case. The University was more supportive of an embezzler than the individual fired for reporting it and other department mismanagement
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

How many times does it need to be stated that this appeal is not by ISU?
ok... I am sick of this line by both sides. ISU and BOR are one in the same at this point. BoR decision was the one appealed to the court's not Leath's as it is the only one subject to Judicial review. Hence, they are the only one with standing in this case as party to the review of THEIR decision. That is literally the only name that could be challenging this decision.
 
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clonedude

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Is anyone outside of the Iowa sports media really talking about this? You guys make it sound like the world is ending. Leath or Pollard being fired or resigning over this? It's not going to happen and it's ridiculous that anyone could seriously believe that.

I'm not sure how many of the media outside of Iowa really know about what happened today yet?

I anticipate it will get around and will be very damaging to us. I hope I'm wrong.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

The "this is MY university, and I can do whatever I want" approach Leath is using is really making him look bad.

Sure, it's the BOR on paper. But ISU can distance itself from this by voicing its disappointment of the BOR decision to take it to the supreme court...just like they've voiced their disapproval before.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

We'll here they are. A rather old school conservative looking bunch.
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" The Iowa Supreme Court is an appellate court. An appellate court reviews decisions of trial courts in which appeals have been allowed. An appellate court does not preside over trials. Appellate court hearings do not involve witnesses, juries, new evidence, or court reporters. Instead, an appellate court reviews the written record of the trial court to determine whether any significant legal errors occurred. The Rules of Appellate Procedure list the requirements for filing an appeal. "
 

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