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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I haven't followed the details in the last couple of weeks. But why are saying here that Fred is supporting Bubu? That the players are supporting him is clear on twitter etc. But did Fred make a statement or something hinting that he supports Bubu?
 

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It has to do with the sexual assault part of the case. Its a fine line

Then you could say the same about physical assault or any other crime for that matter? Pretty clear that in the eyes of the law it either is or it isn't. And in the eyes of the alj who actually interviewed the parties and the witnesses, it wasn't. Not sure how there is any confusion on this.
 

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Our coach and players have made it clear what they want, in spite of our president and a.d. This is just general wording in the motion and I wouldn't read anything into it. Fred's actions have shown he wants BuBu on the team.

It would be so typical of stupid Iowa State to lose our basketball coach over this. It literally makes me sick. I've thought for a while that Hoiberg likes the idea of the NBA a lot more than some of us would like to think. So if he gets ****** off, he'll have no problems bolting.

Pollard would not survive that.
 

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Another feather in Bubu's lawyers cap. Not only with the SC affirm the earlier decision by the judge, it will add to the suit Bubu will bring showing both that he was wronged to begin with, but also te lengths of how frivolous and malicious ISU is being against him.

Whomever is advising ISU to pursue this needs to be fired.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Well Cydkar
1) Not enough evidence/girl was found lying and the case was acquitted

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2)In America you are innocent until PROVEN guilty

Therefore he must be innocent.

In the court of law anyway. Its doesn't mean you have a right to remain a member of a sports team.
 

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Another feather in Bubu's lawyers cap. Not only with the SC affirm the earlier decision by the judge, it will add to the suit Bubu will bring showing both that he was wronged to begin with, but also te lengths of how frivolous and malicious ISU is being against him.

Whomever is advising ISU to pursue this needs to be fired.
How many times does it need to be stated that this appeal is not by ISU?
 

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Leather and Pollard need to drop this ASAP

BOR got a playground whoopn' and embarrassed ran home to big brother Supreme Court. Supreme Court needs to tell the BOR to suck it up that the decision will stand and they won't touch the case.
 

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Being cleared (or not charged) with ANY CRIME is in no way worse than being convicted of armed robbery.


A lot of sexual assault cases get tossed out due to it being his word vs hers.
 

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BOR got a playground whoopn' and embarrassed ran home to big brother Supreme Court. Supreme Court needs to tell the BOR to suck it up that the decision will stand and they won't touch the case.
We will lose Pollard if that's the case.
 

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The ignorance in this thread is amazing.
 

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After reading their application for appeal, I can actually see them putting the stay back in place.
 

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Someone needs to consult a public relations firm and a psychiatrist, Iowa State has a serious problem! This is clear evidence of a mental disorder within the BOR or university hierarchy! Paradoxical events such as this actually occur when an individual with an imperceptible inferiority complex is thrust into or ascends a position of power. Psychoanalysts have found that when people with such a personality disorder find their acumen, accuracy, superiority or knowledge challenged, they often stop nothing in their attempts to prove their point or obtain submission from a dissenting party. These actions should not be confused with those who suffer from an illusory superiority complex.

I kid you not. This is a very, very disconcerting matter and could not possibly reflect more poorly on Iowa State University, the Board of Regents, President Leath and Diane Stale!!! The repercussions of such ill-advised actions have yet to be quantified, but could clearly impact recruiting across multiple sporting platforms!
 
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So the Iowa Supreme court is so lacking for business they will be able to rule on this before the end of basketball season?

I can see why the BOR doesn't want a precedent set, just not sure it can be done before April.

Leave it to an ISU President to start the wheels of this fiasco in motion, by an ill timed ruling.

Its nuts, but after all we are Iowa State..:confused:
 
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Another feather in Bubu's lawyers cap. Not only with the SC affirm the earlier decision by the judge, it will add to the suit Bubu will bring showing both that he was wronged to begin with, but also te lengths of how frivolous and malicious ISU is being against him.

Whomever is advising ISU to pursue this needs to be fired.

Well, the legal advisors in 90 percent of cases is the attorney general's office. The person from the office who represented them in district court and who advised Leath and the B of R in their decisions was Diane Stahle. If anyone cares, she gradjiated from Iowa law school, BA from Luther and if I had to guess grew up in Eastern Iowa. Basically, I don't know if they can really fire her.

Stupid question, has anyone started an online petition of some sort on change.org asking the attorney generals office to stop embarrassing Iowa State and drop this case? We are Iowa State, we rule the internet, I'm sure we can get a ton of sigs if we did.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Then you could say the same about physical assault or any other crime for that matter? Pretty clear that in the eyes of the law it either is or it isn't. And in the eyes of the alj who actually interviewed the parties and the witnesses, it wasn't. Not sure how there is any confusion on this.

When it comes to sexual assault you have to be more careful than most other crimes
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Everyone who thinks this is about what Bubu did or did not do at this point is blind to what the actual issues are. This case (like many cases) is about procedure and rights. The AG is not asking the Iowa Supreme Court to weigh in on if Bubu violated the student conduct code. This is all about the BOR appealing the right for the President of a regent institution to enforce a code of conduct at their university.

Look at Miranda vs Arizona as an example. Miranda raped an 18 year old. The Miranda case found his confession inadmissible because he wasn't informed of his rights. Result, his initial conviction was overturned on a procedural technicality. The case didn't go to the US supreme court about Miranda doing or not doing something to the victim.

Same thing is happening here. This case is about Iowa State's right to allow or not allow students to be members of the athletic teams and the board of regents right to uphold that decision.

Iowa State has always had, and always will have, the right to boot anyone off their athletic teams if they choose. That has not changed.

Just as.... the student has his or her right to appeal that decision as well. They have rights too.

So Bubu used his right to appeal, and won. At that point, the BOR, Leath, and JP can just accept the courts ruling or they can fight it. Here's where they screwed up royally IMO. Their big fat egos couldn't handle that little ole' Bubu Palo took them on and won. They expected him to crawl away with his tail between his legs and give up.

Well, it didn't work that way. And so now they are actually going down the path of not putting their support behind a student athlete that the courts said should be allowed to play. NOT GOOD. This will damage recruiting beyond belief IMO.

All another head coach has to tell a recruit is that at their school the administration supports it's players and fights for their rights, while at Iowa State they don't support you.

Way to go Leath and JP!! Do they not realize that the BOR is basically Hawkeye lovers and they know the damage this will do to us? I just hope Leath and JP aren't known as the two that brought our athletic department to it's knees?
 
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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

How many times does it need to be stated that this appeal is not by ISU?
Technically no, it isn't. But, it also would be naive to think that this was not done with ISU's blessing and input. I still think the "Special Assistant" Iowa Attorney General is the one pulling all of the strings here though, which seems strange.
 

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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I haven't followed the details in the last couple of weeks. But why are saying here that Fred is supporting Bubu? That the players are supporting him is clear on twitter etc. But did Fred make a statement or something hinting that he supports Bubu?

He's invited BuBu back to practice so I'd say that's making him part of the team, in spite of the obvious objection of Leath and JP who are obviously trying to tell him how to run his team. I didn't think Fred would leave for awhile, but now I don't know. Leathe and JP have turned his dream job into an ongoing nightmare that keeps getting worse. And this is being done to one of our favorite ISU sons by a couple of guys that have no allegiance to ISU except their big pay checks. Sickening.