Big men at iowa state...

[Drew0311]

Condit is doing what he is supposed to do. Jones is not a capable high D1 big man. He is good for 5 fouls and is the best available we have.

I think we will get a good big man this off season in the portal. Maybe not a world beater but if we could replace Conditt with a Conditt level player when he gets fouls so quick. We would be ok if our guards make shots. Guards making shots is huge for us with what we have under the basket. We also don't have a Power 4 available either. Just a stretch 4 with Jaz.

 

[bawbie]

Condit is doing what he is supposed to do. Jones is not a capable high D1 big man. He is good for 5 fouls and is the best available we have.

I think we will get a good big man this off season in the portal. Maybe not a world beater but if we could replace Conditt with a Conditt level player when he gets fouls so quick. We would be ok if our guards make shots. Guards making shots is huge for us with what we have under the basket. We also don't have a Power 4 available either. Just a stretch 4 with Jaz.

Do people expect Conditt not to take his covid year? He's one I'd expect to be back (with no inside info)

 

[Drew0311]

Do people expect Conditt not to take his covid year? He's one I'd expect to be back (with no inside info)

I expect him to take it. However, we still need a more capable backup than Jones so when Conditt gets in foul trouble, we have a guy that is just as capable as Conditt if not better.

 

[amishclone]

Bart Torvik classifies them as...

Ejim = "Wing F" "PF/C"
Hogue = "Wing F"
Niang = "Wing G" and "Wing F"

I guess it depends on if you want to focus on the "forward" part or the "wing" part.

I consider them essentially big men, though, unless the OP meant only true centers.

Ejim was recruited as a pg if memory serves

 

[amishclone]

Working at Pella Windows last I heard.

Seriously?

 

[isufbcurt]

Seriously. I'm sure employment is part of his release and I'm sure he's living at home so...

Release? I didn't think he has even been charged with anything yet.

 

[isufbcurt]

I expect him to take it. However, we still need a more capable backup than Jones so when Conditt gets in foul trouble, we have a guy that is just as capable as Conditt if not better.

Tre King?

 

[CycloneVet]

Sigh. I remember in the Floyd days, he told Cato something to the extent of "dunk every time." I think his philosophy was you'll make the bucket and draw a foul or just draw a foul. Shrug - I'm not as well versed as many here, but I'd rather see an attempt at a dunk than missing the bunny all the time. Again, maybe we don't have the personnel to do that, but...

Neither Bob Jones or George are near the athlete Cato was. They can’t dunk in traffic

 

[GetAwesome]

Neither Bob Jones or George are near the athlete Cato was. They can’t dunk in traffic

I'll admit I cannot speak from experience (I'll never be able to dunk in my lifetime), but it's still baffling how anybody 6'9" or taller somehow needs to be any type of supreme athlete to just attempt to dunk every time they are within a foot of the basket. I know I'm missing something, because the lack of these dunk attempts is common throughout the game, but still, just f*ck someone up every time you are next to the rim and are super tall. To not do so is a slap in the face of all shorties.

 

[CycloneVet]

I'll admit I cannot speak from experience (I'll never be able to dunk in my lifetime), but it's still baffling how anybody 6'9" or taller somehow needs to be any type of supreme athlete to just attempt to dunk every time they are within a foot of the basket. I know I'm missing something, because the lack of these dunk attempts is common throughout the game, but still, just f*ck someone up every time you are next to the rim and are super tall. To not do so is a slap in the face of all shorties.

You need the explosiveness and strength to go through someone, Cato had that, these guys don’t.

 

[cyclones500]

Tyray is in the Kenny Pratt school of sneaky inside scorers. He was only 6'7" IIRC.

This is officially correct.

 

[Pat]

I'll admit I cannot speak from experience (I'll never be able to dunk in my lifetime), but it's still baffling how anybody 6'9" or taller somehow needs to be any type of supreme athlete to just attempt to dunk every time they are within a foot of the basket. I know I'm missing something, because the lack of these dunk attempts is common throughout the game, but still, just f*ck someone up every time you are next to the rim and are super tall. To not do so is a slap in the face of all shorties.

It’s a lot harder when you have to go through at least one other super tall dude who is trying to stop you, hurt you, or both.

 

[VeloClone]

he’s averaging the most fouls per game of his career and is 2nd in the big 12 in overall fouls. How’s that cutting down?

George's fouls were way up at the beginning of the season as he learned that the team was expected to play defense and his enthusiasm often got the best of him.
In the first 9 games George had 35 fouls in 173 minutes of playing time.
That is a foul every 4.94 minutes on the floor.
In the middle 9 games he had 27 fouls in 165 minutes of action.
That is a foul every 6.11 minutes.
In the last 8 games he has had 15 fouls in 160 minutes of playing time.
That is a foul every 10.67 minutes.

His fouling problem has gotten progressively better as the season has worn on.

 

[isucy86]

Yes I remember the 2 6'6" guys and the 1 6'7" guy. I am talking 6'9" and up, we never get them.

We need both!!

This year's team has 1 player in the 6'5" - 6'7" range & that is Jaden Walker. Next year we add Tre King & Watson. Never hurts to have taller wings who can take the ball to the rim, make jumpers and rebound.

But yea we need an athletic big that can be a McKay/Cato type rim protector. Hopefully, he has some toughness and attitude as well.

 

[FallOf81]

My wife complains about the same topic.

Mine complains about reptile disfunction. Hey it's not easy to train a lizard.

 

[Messi]

George's fouls were way up at the beginning of the season as he learned that the team was expected to play defense and his enthusiasm often got the best of him.
In the first 9 games George had 35 fouls in 173 minutes of playing time.
That is a foul every 4.94 minutes on the floor.
In the middle 9 games he had 27 fouls in 165 minutes of action.
That is a foul every 6.11 minutes.
In the last 8 games he has had 15 fouls in 160 minutes of playing time.
That is a foul every 10.67 minutes.

His fouling problem has gotten progressively better as the season has worn on.

Good breakdown

 

[BigD]

We need to get back to the good old days like when we had Brad Dudek and David Moss on the same team. Deadly duo.

 

[NickTheGreat]

I really don't think Conditt is the problem with our offense. I still maintain I'd rather have him in than not.

If even one of our guards could shoot over 35% from beyond the arc, we'd still be a ranked team.

 

[VeloClone]

I really don't think Conditt is the problem with our offense. I still maintain I'd rather have him in than not.

If even one of our guards could shoot over 35% from beyond the arc, we'd still be a ranked team.

Jaz is a good shooter from beyond the arc. We need teams to fear him taking that shot. He passes up way too many wide open looks from distance. We need scoring; our best 3 point shooter needs to take his open looks.

He is shooting over 43% on the season.

 

[cyclones500]

Vic was great but was a liability as well. The team was built to run, Vic could not run, but could score down low over any one.

He had the sweetest touch at the rim for a guy his size.

He wouldn't fit the D-first philosophy of this year's team, but the "soft touch" part, we could use more of that.