No way campbell will ever avg 5/7 wins per year esp not after this year
At what point...
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No way campbell will ever avg 5/7 wins per year esp not after this year
I disagree that it's not a JP issue. We have evidence that he hasn't evaluated coaches properly with our poor record during his time. That's like saying Rhoads shouldn't have been fired, cause his players weren't very good. Rhoads was responsible for the players he brought in. Just like Rhoads recruited players to carry out his gameplay, Pollard "recruits" coaches to carry out his. If people can win in Lawrence, Manhattan and Lincoln, then it's possible in Ames.
I'm far from a JP fan but all of his hires have been home runs except two. One was Hoiberg who we all know turned out to be a home run anyway. The other was Rhoads who did well but couldn't capitalize on it.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you probably didn't major in marketing at ISU...
What if the key to all of Campbell's success was his OC at Toledo, which isn't at ISU now?
Manning, after game one, doesn't appear to know what he's doing yet, which isn't surprising since he's never been an OC before. Not sure a P5 program should be hiring a guy who has never been an OC before as their OC. We play in the Big 12, we should be able to get a VERY experienced OC in here.
You mean like Mark Mangino? That worked out well...
Maybe Manning will figure it out. Maybe he'll be the second coming of Courtney messingham. Maybe it boils down to sloppy QB play once again.
All I know is that the only thing jp should be taking heat for is scheduling UNI, and scheduling them often. This game should only happen once every 10 years. Iowa State needs more games against the Western Illinois of the world
I'm no JP lover but judging him based on football results isn't fair. This program has a long history of trainwreck Saturdays.
At least he's upgrading facilities and hopefully found a great one with Prohm.
Time will tell on Campbell, but he and Chiz were good hires at the time.
At least he's upgrading facilities and hopefully found a great one with Prohm.
Time will tell on Campbell, but he and Chiz were good hires at the time.
Cyclonepride
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Yep. I'd like to know who we could have gotten that was better than Campbell. Obviously the guy had to be a head coach because you all would have rioted had he hired another coordinator.
Campbell pushed all the right buttons. Head coach. Brought almost the entire staff with him. Offensive guy.
It is far to early to say that the Campbell hire was the wrong one. He and his staff coached a very poor game last night. The good part for him is that my expectations are so low for them now that if the team loses by 50, but it appears that the coaches have set foot on the football field before, I will feel better about things!
I don't think anyone is bailing. For me, I am disappointed that they appeared so clueless last night. Hiring a proven head coach who has some insane attention to detail, one would think it wouldn't be quite the **** show it was.
If Matt and CO. have not fixed the OLine and run game in 3 years we have an issue. Rhoads and CO. had the most dysfunctional OLine staff and OC situation I have witnessed.
Can't be fixed overnight. They did pass protect at least adequately so we are going to have to adjust our Offense accordingly or hope they get better at run blocking.
Can't be fixed overnight. They did pass protect at least adequately so we are going to have to adjust our Offense accordingly or hope they get better at run blocking.
The bolded is more apparent after yesterday's game. Rhoads should have been gone a year earlier, which didn't help us, and we are 2 years away from building up our lines to where they need to be. It is going to be a lot of up and down till then. I trust Campbell will get us on the right path, but it is going to take some time, unfortunately.
This early in the season, it is difficult to ask for any resignations, but if the football season continues without improvement, asking for a resignation or perhaps TWO may be appropriate.
I'm sure if JP's phone rang late in the 4Q he was praying "Don't be Dr. Leath again".
A lot of it is unfair, obviously. I didn't have any issues with play calling like some on here. However, there were two moments that didn't make any difference in the outcome but were frustrating coaching screw-ups. The 12 men on the field on the kickoff was awful and should be embarrassing for whichever coach screwed that up. The other time was when the defense was going on the field after a tv timeout and had to take a timeout immediately. Like I said, neither made a difference in the outcome but neither should ever happen.
Absolutely not. They're only home runs if they work out, the rest is just hype/success not associated with Iowa State. None of the football coaches have won consistently, so they proved the were bad hires.
Do you expect him to predict the future and who's to say they haven't done the best of the options we had. You can't blame someone for making the home run hire.
This was a bad game. Embarrassing and ugly in nearly every facet. However I'm not ready to question CMC or his staff quite yet. I feel like a lot of our frustration as fans is frustration bleeding over from last year. Hell, it's frustration from the last several years. It's like being a Cubs fan (not this year obviously), when we were constantly in a "rebuilding" year. It takes a while to drag a program in a tail spin out of the cellar. It won't be a pretty year this year. It may even be a crappy year next year. But we need to give it time. IMHO
Not sure what Jamie could've done better. Campbell was a highly-sought-after coach with a very bright future. He brought in the best recruiting class in school history without even coaching a single game. Jamie did his job by hiring the best candidate available. Most national writers thought Campbell was too good for Iowa State.
