Ashley Okland Murder

Guessing this trial don't happen for a long time. So we won't know any info for a long time. This sucks. I thought they were at least going to clue us in on what might have sent the investigation in that direction.
 
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Wonder if this Ramsey lady was the Rottlund employee who made the initial call to police after finding Ashley Okland? So many questions
Some 3rd hand info I have (take that for what its worth) says that Ramsey was the one who called 911. Seems that those who knew Ramsey are completely in shock with this news.
 
Some 3rd hand info I have (take that for what its worth) says that Ramsey was the one who called 911. Seems that those who knew Ramsey are completely in shock with this news.

Obviously we can all agree the murder was horrific and a terrible tragedy. That being said, I'll be fascinated to see what the defense team uses as a strategy for Ramsey.
 
Some 3rd hand info I have (take that for what its worth) says that Ramsey was the one who called 911. Seems that those who knew Ramsey are completely in shock with this news.


I know a girl who went to high school with her. Different Grade but said she was cheerleading captain and a total normal girl and nobody ever would have guessed she did this. I believe she has a college aged son that goes to Iowa. I feel for that kid. Can't imagine being in college and your mom gets arrested for what is probably the most famous murder in Des Moines area history. (Johnny Gosch is still a kidnapping)
 
Some 3rd hand info I have (take that for what its worth) says that Ramsey was the one who called 911. Seems that those who knew Ramsey are completely in shock with this news.

Newspaper report at the time IDs the woman who called as Wanda Fowler

 
Newspaper report at the time IDs the woman who called as Wanda Fowler

Yeah I wont tell you in the info I got was 100% correct. It sounds like Ramsey was somehow involved in finding her, and had discussed those details with people she knew.
 
Victory lap I suppose. I'm guessing they don't want to jeopardize the case by releasing information that may tip her lawyers to something.

Victory lap in the sense that the DA/Police can point to a guilty person and lets that sink in among prospective jurors. This was a very visible murder and one of Iowa's cold cases that touches upon people's emotions. Professional, pretty women, murdered in broad daylight, in "upscale" West Des Moines. aka If it could happen to Ashley Okland, it can happen to anyone.

Presser like this allow the prosecution to prejudice the jury pool before the legal process begins.
 
Wonder what spurred the suicide attempt. Distraught over coming across Ashley’s body?
You could make an assumption that maybe she was worried since she was the one that discovered her that they would think she was the main suspect in the case. You can only imagine now with how much more prevalent social media is than it was 15 years ago even how people might perceive that she had to be the killer since there weren't other leads. Just my guess that the whole situation probably stressed her out and if she already had any other kind of prior depression issues this just escalated them.

If anyone has ever watched the Dateline episode of the Justin Michael murder in Grimes it was interesting to see how they were able to figure out who the suspect was in that case. There was a time during the questioning they suspected his girlfriend did it because she wasn't showing much emotion during questioning and had no blood of his on her despite being in the same bed as him when he was shot in the middle of the night. Was almost like they thought she may have done it and was trying to cover it up until they finally started to put some other pieces together and realized who may have done it. I think the episode is on YouTube somewhere, that murder was probably a quarter mile away from where I live so was a bit creepy watching that episode knowing the area the murderer had been scouting in advance.
 
You could make an assumption that maybe she was worried since she was the one that discovered her that they would think she was the main suspect in the case. You can only imagine now with how much more prevalent social media is than it was 15 years ago even how people might perceive that she had to be the killer since there weren't other leads. Just my guess that the whole situation probably stressed her out and if she already had any other kind of prior depression issues this just escalated them.

If anyone has ever watched the Dateline episode of the Justin Michael murder in Grimes it was interesting to see how they were able to figure out who the suspect was in that case. There was a time during the questioning they suspected his girlfriend did it because she wasn't showing much emotion during questioning and had no blood of his on her despite being in the same bed as him when he was shot in the middle of the night. Was almost like they thought she may have done it and was trying to cover it up until they finally started to put some other pieces together and realized who may have done it. I think the episode is on YouTube somewhere, that murder was probably a quarter mile away from where I live so was a bit creepy watching that episode knowing the area the murderer had been scouting in advance.

I would have thought any documented person in the room before police arrived would have been asked to provide fingerprints and gunshot residue testing.
 
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Jealous wife?

Although this is a logical avenue to pursue in many cases, I don't buy it in this case. 26 year old single 10's typically don't pursue the husband of middle class, 38 year old 3's that they work with.

IMO, this will boil down to money, business, and perhaps illegalities. Rottlund was struggling financially in 2011, and went out of business by the end of the year. Did Okland uncover something illicit that the perp wanted to keep quiet?

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You could make an assumption that maybe she was worried since she was the one that discovered her that they would think she was the main suspect in the case. You can only imagine now with how much more prevalent social media is than it was 15 years ago even how people might perceive that she had to be the killer since there weren't other leads. Just my guess that the whole situation probably stressed her out and if she already had any other kind of prior depression issues this just escalated them.

If anyone has ever watched the Dateline episode of the Justin Michael murder in Grimes it was interesting to see how they were able to figure out who the suspect was in that case. There was a time during the questioning they suspected his girlfriend did it because she wasn't showing much emotion during questioning and had no blood of his on her despite being in the same bed as him when he was shot in the middle of the night. Was almost like they thought she may have done it and was trying to cover it up until they finally started to put some other pieces together and realized who may have done it. I think the episode is on YouTube somewhere, that murder was probably a quarter mile away from where I live so was a bit creepy watching that episode knowing the area the murderer had been scouting in advance.
I worked with his fiancee when that episode first aired. She was NOT well around that time. She/her family wanted nothing to do with it, and Dateline essentially told her "you can either work with us or we can paint you in a very bad light."