Another Manning S^*T sandwich

I looked it up a few weeks ago.

Kyle Kempt first career start: 236.3 Passer Rating
Kyle Kempt best career start: 236.3 Passer Rating

Brock Purdy first career start: 243.1 Passer Rating
Brock Purdy best career start: 243.1 Passer Rating

Hunter Dekkers first career start: 196.2 Passer Rating
Hunter Dekkers best career start: 196.2 Passer Rating
Well, at least this hasn't been tweeted around the country yet other so teams can use it against ISU during recruiting. It's a pretty obscure stat, so likely no other P5 staffs have discovered it...
 
I think that we are unlikely to see massive special teams improvement if we hired a specific special teams coach.

As Curt said, there is only a finite amount of time in a practice. Regardless of WHO is coaching special teams, we need more TIME focused on it. Nobody thinks special teams are unimportant. The coaches are living inside the building constantly. It’s not a matter of “who” is in staff doing the designs and concepts, it’s just a matter that demonstrably it hasn’t been a big enough focus in terms of time budget for the staff. That might be improved with a dedicated special teams coach, but it might not be.

Also re: Tom Manning and his “s*** sandwich….” Do we really all think that Campbell is not involved with offensive game plan or scheme? I don’t think Tom is a great OC by any means, and it seems pretty apparent that Jeff Myers hasn’t gotten the job done as OL coach.. but offensive issues are systemic. Changing one coach won’t fix it. It will really require a similar type of innovation/focus that happened with the defense in the first few Campbell years.

The offense is out of sorts and it isn’t all on one player or coach. My armchair analysis is that our players are not being set up to succeed and we are predictable. We don’t play to numbers and we don’t design plays and formations to create advantages enough. And yeah, we have a TON of execution errors.

Our OLine isn’t failing due to lack of talent or size, it’s failing due to poor scheme and coaching on the offensive side. It’s probably not ENTIRELY on Myers, but there’s a systemic problem in offense.
This part, from your post, is, in short, CampbellBall:

My armchair analysis is that our players are not being set up to succeed and we are predictable. We don’t play to numbers and we don’t design plays and formations to create advantages enough. And yeah, we have a TON of execution errors.

We are so focused on keeping it close, winning TOP, and avoiding turnovers that we make it so we almost have to play perfect football. That is why bad officiating makes such a difference in our games.
 
I dumbed it because it's a dumb equivalency.

A coach who may be a RB coach and then also coaches Punt Return isn't doing a part time job, he's doing his job as a coach.

The same way that me being a CPA doing bookkeeping and taxes, doesn't make me doing special project for a client a part time job.

Me dumbing your posts is easier than continuing to explain to someone who is to stupid to understand 1 dedicated coach isn't a magic answer when each special teams unit already has a coach in charge of it.
But you used to play at ISU so what you say is the end all be all, right?

What would you define as “coach in charge” when our special teams have been brutal until Campbell? Let’s disregard the fact that teams who have special teams coordinators are unequivocally better at special teams than those who don’t
 
WR coach working on punt block schemes doesn't seem great. They probably watch lots of film on WRs and not much film on blocking for our punter. Might be a good reason why Iowa players called out our scheme post game after they blocked two of our punts. Their special teams coach saw a specific issue with how we line up and was able to exploit it. A dedicated ISU ST coach probably would have seen that before any game occurred so those blocked punts don't happen in the first place.
 
I really don't see how anyone is still in denial that a dedicated special teams coach would do anything other than maybe, I dunno, give us a special teams that DOESN'T rank in the bottom 25 of college football going on 3 consecutive seasons.

This whole philosophy of corroborating special teams amongst the staff seems to be in direct contradiction of the other popular philosophy of winning in the margins. I love Campbell and will continue to stand by him as the head coach of Iowa State football, but this is maddening, bordering on insanity.
 
Williams first career start: 162.
Williams best career start: 255.

I don't get your point.
Oh so his best performance as a QB wasn't when he got meaningful run in the 2H against UT last year? You know when teams didn't have film on him, I guess it wasn't a "start". My point is I'm sure a lot of QBs "best" games are their first games/appearances because teams don't have film on "the new guy".
 
This part, from your post, is, in short, CampbellBall:

My armchair analysis is that our players are not being set up to succeed and we are predictable. We don’t play to numbers and we don’t design plays and formations to create advantages enough. And yeah, we have a TON of execution errors.

We are so focused on keeping it close, winning TOP, and avoiding turnovers that we make it so we almost have to play perfect football. That is why bad officiating makes such a difference in our games.
Well said here. This is precisely why everything looks SO HARD for Iowa State. Every first down is a fight for our life. Many passing plays require perfect precision from Dekkers, and when it gets it off, he BARELY gets it off, because of course the D-Line are closing in fast. WR's are rarely "schemed open" Run lanes are only open for a split second, requiring elite playmaking from our backs.

It is actually quite bizarre watching our offense and then watching most other offenses - Iowa State makes the game SO MUCH HARDER on itself with its schemes (lack thereof). Rarely does ANYTHING come easy. Rarely is there a WR wide open by 10 yards. Rarely is there a giant running lane. Rarely is there a misdirection that has EVERYONE fooled. Rarely are we gifted a big play where we've confused the defense and we've got a sure touchdown. And when it does actually happen, our guys lock up and freeze because they are so used to every single play being a total grind, every single play KNOWING that the defense knows exactly what play you are running! A perfect example is the X drop against Texas. He froze, he glitched, he had the yipps - whatever you want to call it - In that moment, in that split second, he could not believe he was wide open for a touchdown. And all that stress of having to be 'perfect' on every single play caused him to drop that ball. I truly believe that. He didn't calmly catch the ball and walk into the endzone because he's literally NEVER put in that position.

This is why the Iowa State offense sucks.
 
Well said here. This is precisely why everything looks SO HARD for Iowa State. Every first down is a fight for our life. Many passing plays require perfect precision from Dekkers, and when it gets it off, he BARELY gets it off, because of course the D-Line are closing in fast. WR's are rarely "schemed open" Run lanes are only open for a split second, requiring elite playmaking from our backs.

It is actually quite bizarre watching our offense and then watching most other offenses - Iowa State makes the game SO MUCH HARDER on itself with its schemes (lack thereof). Rarely does ANYTHING come easy. Rarely is there a WR wide open by 10 yards. Rarely is there a giant running lane. Rarely is there a misdirection that has EVERYONE fooled. Rarely are we gifted a big play where we've confused the defense and we've got a sure touchdown. And when it does actually happen, our guys lock up and freeze because they are so used to every single play being a total grind, every single play KNOWING that the defense knows exactly what play you are running! A perfect example is the X drop against Texas. He froze, he glitched, he had the yipps - whatever you want to call it - In that moment, in that split second, he could not believe he was wide open for a touchdown. And all that stress of having to be 'perfect' on every single play caused him to drop that ball. I truly believe that. He didn't calmly catch the ball and walk into the endzone because he's literally NEVER put in that position.

This is why the Iowa State offense sucks.
We need an offensively minded coach. Period. The easiest thing to do for this team is to fire Manning and find one. Its a solution that pays instantaneous dividends. We have an elite level defensive mind and are still playing with wooden blocks on the other side of the ball.
 
I know little about schemes, but is there some explanation why we seem to do nothing with our tight ends this year? They were such an integral part of our offense the last few years, and even in the non-con this year we used Rus and others pretty effectively. The last several weeks it seems like (outside of Hanika running a deep route once or twice) we almost never go in their direction.
Are the current TEs just not good enough or are we purposefully not using them?
 
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I know little about schemes, but is there some explanation why we seem to do nothing with our tight ends this year? They were such an integral part of our offense the last few years, and even in the non-con this year we used Rus and others pretty effectively. The last several weeks it seems like (outside of Hanika running a deep route once or twice) we almost never go in their direction.
Are the current TEs just not good enough or are we purposefully not using them?
Those plays were ditched because they don't fit on a 3x5 card? Kidding!!!

I have no idea. The TE plays added a lot of depth to the offense and were especially useful in red zone scoring opportunities. One would think they'd be pulled out for one of those red zone plays or a third and medium. There must be something we don't know that drives the decision making on this aspect.
 
Those plays were ditched because they don't fit on a 3x5 card? Kidding!!!

I have no idea. The TE plays added a lot of depth to the offense and were especially useful in red zone scoring opportunities. One would think they'd be pulled out for one of those red zone plays or a third and medium. There must be something we don't know that drives the decision making on this aspect.
Did you watch what Green Bay did against Buffalo?

Utilized multiple TEs to really help the run game, then struck deep with play action passing.

This year, we can't even utilize formations that put pressure on a defense.

Other teams have to be shouting out the only couple plays possible once they see our formation and personnel. It is clownishly simplistic to the point that Brian Ferentz thinks we're copying him!
 
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Oh yeah, ISU is down to 4.8 yards per play, from 6.3 last year.
I get what you’re saying but we also lost 2 AA TEs, a starting NFL RB, and an NFL QB and replaced them with 2 TEs who have barely played, a true Fr RB and one who’s played sparingly throughout his time at ISU, and a QB who’s rarely played prior to this year.

Not having a running game this year is killing us
 
I get what you’re saying but we also lost 2 AA TEs, a starting NFL RB, and an NFL QB and replaced them with 2 TEs who have barely played, a true Fr RB and one who’s played sparingly throughout his time at ISU, and a QB who’s rarely played prior to this year.

Not having a running game this year is killing us
You've hit it on the head. No running game because our offensive line is beyond horrible.
Myers needs a slow walk out of the building.
 
You've hit it on the head. No running game because our offensive line is beyond horrible.
Myers needs a slow walk out of the building.
Having a **** OL is the main reason why we feel obligated to throw the ball short 40 times a game and turn it over 2-3 times each game. Can't generate push for runs, can't sustain a pocket for more than 2-3 seconds.
I know little about schemes, but is there some explanation why we seem to do nothing with our tight ends this year? They were such an integral part of our offense the last few years, and even in the non-con this year we used Rus and others pretty effectively. The last several weeks it seems like (outside of Hanika running a deep route once or twice) we almost never go in their direction.
Are the current TEs just not good enough or are we purposefully not using them?
Looks like a lack of skill to me. We aren't exactly putting Hock and Fant out there.
 
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Do most teams have a dedicated ST coach?
I would think that would be the minority. Teams can have 11 coaches- head coach and typically 5 offense & 5 defensive coaches. So if a team is going with a dedicated special teams coach, then a coordinator is likely going to have "position responsibility". Or a team doubles up position responsibility CB & Safeties or WR & TE.

Not sure have a dedicated ST coach is necessary. But it seems like having one coach being accountable isn't a bad idea. Looking around the Big12:
  • 6 teams have a coordinator or position coach who also has ST Coordinator in their title.
  • 4 teams don't have any specific coach with ST Coordinator in their title
  • 0 teams have a dedicated ST coach.
 

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