Another Manning S^*T sandwich
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I understand how practices work, but that doesn’t mean anything if we don’t have a coach coming up with schemes and plays for the 6 different special teams units.
Gilbert was a (pretty good) QB in HS. This is his first year focusing solely on kicking and he’s had a good year thus far, but with his inconsistent special teams have been as a whole and for how close our games have been (4 losses within one score) we should have a lot of fake FG play options and IMO we should run them, we have nothing to lose this year
The bold is what you don't seem to understand - WE DO have a coach coming up with schemes, just because it isn't one dedicated coach for all special teams doesn't mean no one is coaching them or game planning for them.
What would you do to improve ST play / results? Curious your thoughts on best bang for the buck.
Devote more practice time overall? Dedicate guys to ST so they can miss some time with their position groups but spend it on ST? Different schemes? Different coach/coaches in charge?
First off you can't really pull guys from individual/team practice stuff, they are all needed for that.
The only scheme I personally don't like is the Punt formation - I am against having OL guys on that team.
Can you read or are you dense on purpose?
Punt team has a coach in charge
Punt return/block has a coach in charge
KR has a coach in charge
KO has a coach in charge
FG has a coach in charge
FG block has a coach in charge.
Just because it isn't the same one coach means nothing. They each have a coach in charge scheming and coaching them. What does it matter if the guy scheming the Punt team is the same guy scheming the KR team? It doesn't because they have nothing to do with each other.
Williams first career start: 162.
Williams best career start: 255.
I don't get your point.
Do you have a part time job you also work at outside of your full time job?
You continue to prove you don’t believe special teams are worthy of any attention, and that mindset is the problem. Our special teams have sucked for forever and will continue to until we have someONE dedicated to special teams.
You see how good iowa is every year at special teams. Their special teams were a huge reason why they beat us last year. Oh wait..they have a special teams coordinator, shocking
Purdy was great considering the restraints he was under.
While he may not have the arm strength of Dekkers, it appears he was told to not throw deep.
Can anyone name a player on offense that has improved during this season?
Hanika the TE, and maybe Stanley the WR? Anybody else?
See the problem in trusting things to be fixed in the offseason?
As for this season, check out ISU's PPP ranking. #118 out of 131.
Check out the teams around us, notice anything? Exactly.
College Football Points Per Play
While he may not have the arm strength of Dekkers, it appears he was told to not throw deep.
Can anyone name a player on offense that has improved during this season?
Hanika the TE, and maybe Stanley the WR? Anybody else?
See the problem in trusting things to be fixed in the offseason?
As for this season, check out ISU's PPP ranking. #118 out of 131.
Check out the teams around us, notice anything? Exactly.
College Football Points Per Play
@isufbcurt I’m assuming you don’t have a part time job outside of your full time job..? Since, you “dumbed” my posts but couldn’t respond to it.
You “dumbing” my posts shows me you’re finally starting to see how important it is to have a dedicated special teams coach and I applaud you for finally realizing that
Really missing Brocktober from last year since we had to put up with Manningctber this year. (October without the O)
I still don't know what the hell "campbellball" is. It's not like we're a run-run-pass offense, we throw the ball ~40 times a game. 57 times against OU. The 6.7 Y/A and 10 INTs is definitely not getting it done. -3 TO margin overall isn't doing it either (credit to our D though -- we lead the conference in forced & recovered fumbles).
also a huge reason why they beat us in 2019. Poor special teams allowed them to score a TD. We returned a kickoff that should have been downed, but instead our return guy try to run it out and got caught at the 15. On top of that, there was a penalty so that backed our offense up inside our 5 yard line. We had to punt from our end zone and of course had terrible punt coverage which gave Iowa a very short distance to go to score.
I think that we are unlikely to see massive special teams improvement if we hired a specific special teams coach.
As Curt said, there is only a finite amount of time in a practice. Regardless of WHO is coaching special teams, we need more TIME focused on it. Nobody thinks special teams are unimportant. The coaches are living inside the building constantly. It’s not a matter of “who” is in staff doing the designs and concepts, it’s just a matter that demonstrably it hasn’t been a big enough focus in terms of time budget for the staff. That might be improved with a dedicated special teams coach, but it might not be.
Also re: Tom Manning and his “s*** sandwich….” Do we really all think that Campbell is not involved with offensive game plan or scheme? I don’t think Tom is a great OC by any means, and it seems pretty apparent that Jeff Myers hasn’t gotten the job done as OL coach.. but offensive issues are systemic. Changing one coach won’t fix it. It will really require a similar type of innovation/focus that happened with the defense in the first few Campbell years.
The offense is out of sorts and it isn’t all on one player or coach. My armchair analysis is that our players are not being set up to succeed and we are predictable. We don’t play to numbers and we don’t design plays and formations to create advantages enough. And yeah, we have a TON of execution errors.
Our OLine isn’t failing due to lack of talent or size, it’s failing due to poor scheme and coaching on the offensive side. It’s probably not ENTIRELY on Myers, but there’s a systemic problem in offense.
As Curt said, there is only a finite amount of time in a practice. Regardless of WHO is coaching special teams, we need more TIME focused on it. Nobody thinks special teams are unimportant. The coaches are living inside the building constantly. It’s not a matter of “who” is in staff doing the designs and concepts, it’s just a matter that demonstrably it hasn’t been a big enough focus in terms of time budget for the staff. That might be improved with a dedicated special teams coach, but it might not be.
Also re: Tom Manning and his “s*** sandwich….” Do we really all think that Campbell is not involved with offensive game plan or scheme? I don’t think Tom is a great OC by any means, and it seems pretty apparent that Jeff Myers hasn’t gotten the job done as OL coach.. but offensive issues are systemic. Changing one coach won’t fix it. It will really require a similar type of innovation/focus that happened with the defense in the first few Campbell years.
The offense is out of sorts and it isn’t all on one player or coach. My armchair analysis is that our players are not being set up to succeed and we are predictable. We don’t play to numbers and we don’t design plays and formations to create advantages enough. And yeah, we have a TON of execution errors.
Our OLine isn’t failing due to lack of talent or size, it’s failing due to poor scheme and coaching on the offensive side. It’s probably not ENTIRELY on Myers, but there’s a systemic problem in offense.
To clarify, I’d be in support of firing some of the offensive staff if it meant getting new ideas and new coaches into the building to help guide and change philosophy.. but simply hiring a new coach from within and continuing the same Campbell trends won’t fix the offense (probably).
I dumbed it because it's a dumb equivalency.
A coach who may be a RB coach and then also coaches Punt Return isn't doing a part time job, he's doing his job as a coach.
The same way that me being a CPA doing bookkeeping and taxes, doesn't make me doing special project for a client a part time job.
Me dumbing your posts is easier than continuing to explain to someone who is to stupid to understand 1 dedicated coach isn't a magic answer when each special teams unit already has a coach in charge of it.
