Schools or their boosters and NIL are tampering all over the place, plenty of stories out their of kids being offered hundreds of thousands of dollars to leave their current school and jump into the portal. Its the wild west out there with no rules, NIL has become play for pay, just like many thought it would be. The idea of giving the kid pizza money so he could take his girl out on Saturday nite and getting a piece of the action on his uniform sales has morphed into here is $10 million if you come to my university as in the case of the new Michigan QB recruit. Until it gets out of hand to the point the SEC and B10 say "enough is enough" then nothing is going to change, and I really do not think either league is willing to give up the freedom and power they now have over to a 3rd party comish. making the calls for the betterment of the sport unless they can control that person.
8 Year extension for Campbell
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My only issue with the rotters is they’re all happy and everything’s sunshine when Campbell wins, and then we lose and the rot’s back. At least be consistent, post about how bad Campbell is after wins too, don’t join the regular folks in celebration.
A. Better than the Fiesta Bowl? Let’s skip the recency bias, please.
B. Is there some reason not to think that the program is steadily trending upwards?
I mean, the wins are a hint, but I assure you the recruiting classes are bringing in much better athletes overall than we were getting five years ago.
I still think they're not good enough athletes if we want to take the next step but I'm not sure we can financially ever make that next step.
I disagree. They’re good enough athletes, but also still development prospects.
I’d also argue that if not for a rather ludicrous rash of injuries, we’d have already taken that “next step”.
Barring those injuries and the ripples they created, managing eleven or even twelve wins was certainly not out of the question, and is within reach in ‘25.
Indeed, ten wins is a next step in and of itself.
What happens when the process chooses self love? Is that what happened in '22?
Somebody tell joe frog. He may punch himself in the nuts repeatedly when he hears.
Ya maybe without all the injuries but you're always going to have some every year. ASU completely outclassed us and it wasn't just some waterfall effect. They dominated us and barring them running the table and surprising everyone, I can't believe we would match up better against Ohio State or Notre Dame. Especially on the lines. I'm not trying to drag this team, they were very good and yes they could have been incredible without all the injuries but I would be lying if I said they were anywhere near elite. I guess you could argue it was just ISU out of gas because of the injuries but we didn't put teams away this year they way we should have. Teams that had no business beating us or competing with us. Maybe we have the talent level but we're just not good enough in the chess match from the press box every game? I think if we could get a Troy Davis right now we would be a legit contender but can we ever afford someone like that in this day and age without hitting the transfer lottery like ASU with Skattebo?
To be clear I'm not trying to be negative I'm just trying to be honest about where we are and how much further we can realistically grow.
Purely considering coaching (and recruiting), Johnny Major might be worth consideration in this discussion.
Matt Campbell has built off each season for the most part. Meanwhile McCarney fell flat on his face building off chances to win the north.
‘Austin Flynn on the keeper’ still gives me nightmares. As if we actually ran QB keep 75% of the time.
I agree, it's his baby, hard to leave something like that you built and start over I think.
I was really drunk during the ASU game, not proud., but Campbell will win multiple Big 12. Championships before he’s done. I’m just impatient- and have seen many many (40) years of dog **** football. I am SO ready for ISU football to be taken seriously and I think now is the time with his “old school” philosophy of keeping his word and committing to ISU. The right players will respect it and stay here and there will be those looking for that stability! Bright days are ahead (even after drunk nights and hungover mornings).
Go cyclones.
Go cyclones.
Hungover morning? If you don’t have at least a 36 hour hangover did you even party?
I both agree and disagree.
Personally, I am not that impressed with our linebacker corps, even when healthy. Certainly, a healthy LB is better than what we had . Certainly, the starters are a higher degree of athlete than the kids who did an amazing job when pressed into service far earlier than expected. That said... if I were to judge our LB's in terms of an ability to run side to side, drop 18-20 years deep into the underneath hole and spy an athletic QB... IDK who, if any, would get great grades. I know CW said he thought Brezina was better than Rose as a freshman but I disagree. Rose as a freshman you could see the raw talent. The side to side speed, the ability to track to the ball but was not physically imposing. Brezina, I see the opposite. A physically imposing 18 year old, who looks ripped off the cover page of LB R US. And he got hurt so early on, it was hard to tell, but I need a larger sample size to judge his ability to move in space and run side to side. Straight ahead? Kids a monster. But lateral speed and agility?
Same with our young receivers. As good as Noel and Higgins were / are and they are special, we lacked that speedster . I know we don't play with three receivers a ton at the same time, but that to me the missing piece of this offense. To have a speed merchant who can stretch a defense to keep the safety out of the box, both to help the run game but also open the intermediate throw and make it easier to find those windows. Noela nd Higgins aren't slow, don't get me wrong. But I"m talking like, a DP type of runner but on offense.
If our LB"s prove able to run side to side and clear the trash that occupies the middle of the field, and we find that speed demon WR - then we'll take the next step. Because having that guy who can help you score from anywhere in 1 play and a LB who can inside out pursuit a ball carrier to make a 2nd and 5 a 2nd and 8... those are two things that help us to 11-1.
Long term I have no concerns. We're a developmental program. We develop players very well and we are very well coached and very solid. And we have certainly climbed a long ways up the mountain. As far as I'm concerned unless the wheels fall off, CMC should just have a life time contract.
But, I do think athletically, the LB room needs a slight upgrade. Not an overhaul because there is talent there, but kind of like you take a car in for a grease and oil change, that kind of thing. We brought Travis in and he helped transform or helped progress the offensive line. A kid like that for the LB room would be huge IMO
Coaching rankings - last 55 years
1. Campbell
2. Bruce
3. Majors
4. Tie between Duncan and McCarney
6. Rhoads
7. Criner
8. Walden
9. Chizik
Duncan was underrated IMO.
1. Campbell
2. Bruce
3. Majors
4. Tie between Duncan and McCarney
6. Rhoads
7. Criner
8. Walden
9. Chizik
Duncan was underrated IMO.
Will that turn him into Joe prince? Or am I remembering that story wrong?
