Dwayne Pierce commits, third top 100 prospect in the 2024 class

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I've been wondering the same. Transfer portal had been really good to us and wondering why TJ is taking so many high school kids. Are we going to pull 3 really good ones every year and fill the gaps with transfers? Seems like a good mix of player development and hitting the free agency market.
Take three to four every year knowing that there will be some attrition in the portal and likely a couple additions via the portal every off season. I'd much rather have too many talented players coming in than get caught with our pants down if a few key players leave.
 

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Replace Lipsey with Williams and you suddenly have 6-4, 6-6, 6-7, 6-8, 6-7. Perhaps you start your big with Lipsey and then when subbing out go with this lineup to really screw with the opposition.
Still need a 6'9"+ rim protector imo. Look at KU this season. We abused them in the post with Abrams playing the 5. Hope we pull in another Osun next season. TJ is recruiting size for sure though. Some day we'll look back and think remember when 6'3" was a good sized guard.
 
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Still need a 6'9"+ rim protector imo. Look at KU this season. We abused them in the post with Abrams playing the 5. Hope we pull in another Osun next season. TJ is recruiting size for sure though. Some day we'll look back and think remember when 6'3" was a good sized guard.
Yeah, that would be the big I said you start with Lipsey. The small lineup is the change of pace that keeps the other team's bigs' heads spinning and their point guard constantly getting posted up.
 

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Very intrigued by Dwayne. Really like his size, and his alluding to being looked at as a 1 is very interesting. He's got a strong handle, and you can't read too much into 1 high school game or tweet, but I'm a believer that you want as many guys who can handle the ball and run the offense as possible.

Lipsey has all the makings of a 4 year starter in the B12, but I do think there's plenty of room for a couple other guys who can handle some of those responsibilities.

Excited to see what the future holds!
 

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Very intrigued by Dwayne. Really like his size, and his alluding to being looked at as a 1 is very interesting. He's got a strong handle, and you can't read too much into 1 high school game or tweet, but I'm a believer that you want as many guys who can handle the ball and run the offense as possible.

Lipsey has all the makings of a 4 year starter in the B12, but I do think there's plenty of room for a couple other guys who can handle some of those responsibilities.

Excited to see what the future holds!
You have to look no further than Jaren to see how important a combo guard who can slide over and comfortably and effectively handle the point can be. If you need more historical reference see Mike Nurse. Somewhat more recent? Nick Babb. There are a few ISU teams who would have been in huge trouble without those skills from guys who weren't point guards. Just like this team would struggle without Jalen to back up the PG position. Jeremiah Williams is just another chapter in the lesson that depth at any position can quickly evaporate.
 
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Still need a 6'9"+ rim protector imo. Look at KU this season. We abused them in the post with Abrams playing the 5. Hope we pull in another Osun next season. TJ is recruiting size for sure though. Some day we'll look back and think remember when 6'3" was a good sized guard.
Agree, seems TJ likes a traditional post based on his rosters at UNLV and ISU.

IMO the idea of switching 1-5 is overated and a bit of a fallacy. Not many 6'7"+ guys can win the battle against an uber quick guard/wing.
 

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You have to look no further than Jalen to see how important a combo guard who can slide over and comfortably and effectively handle the point can be. If you need more historical reference see Mike Nurse. Somewhat more recent? Nick Babb. There are a few ISU teams who would have been in huge trouble without those skills from guys who weren't point guards. Just like this team would struggle without Jalen to back up the PG position. Jeremiah Williams is just another chapter in the lesson that depth at any position can quickly evaporate.
For sure. Last year, Gabe and IB had to split the backup duties and it was a pain when teams cranked up the ball pressure. You can't have too many guys who can get it up the court, and it wouldn't surprise me if they look for a Jaren type guy in the portal next year.
 
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I think I said earlier in this thread that I felt good enough about Pierce's ball handling ability to be able to be a PG, or at least share PG duties. I just wasn't sure about his passing, based on the highlights that are available which don't have many assists. I think the tweet shared earlier eases some of those concerns. Sure, it's a single game, but players don't just accidentally get 13 assists in a game.

Also, I found a full game from this weekend that I watched a few minutes of. The link below starts at a stretch where he has 2 rebounds and three assists on three straight offensive possessions.
https://www.youtube.com/live/98TcpNt7_v8?feature=share&t=1265

There's been a lot of discussion around whether he's really able to be a primary PG in the sense that Kane and Smart were, or if he's more like a secondary playmaker in the way that Holmes is and THT and Burton were. Frankly, now I see better what it sounds like the staff sees and feel like he can be the former.
 

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I think I said earlier in this thread that I felt good enough about Pierce's ball handling ability to be able to be a PG, or at least share PG duties. I just wasn't sure about his passing, based on the highlights that are available which don't have many assists. I think the tweet shared earlier eases some of those concerns. Sure, it's a single game, but players don't just accidentally get 13 assists in a game.

Also, I found a full game from this weekend that I watched a few minutes of. The link below starts at a stretch where he has 2 rebounds and three assists on three straight offensive possessions.
https://www.youtube.com/live/98TcpNt7_v8?feature=share&t=1265

There's been a lot of discussion around whether he's really able to be a primary PG in the sense that Kane and Smart were, or if he's more like a secondary playmaker in the way that Holmes is and THT and Burton were. Frankly, now I see better what it sounds like the staff sees and feel like he can be the former.
Well as long as you feel comfortable with it, I'm sure the staff will feel at ease now too. JFC
 

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I think I said earlier in this thread that I felt good enough about Pierce's ball handling ability to be able to be a PG, or at least share PG duties. I just wasn't sure about his passing, based on the highlights that are available which don't have many assists. I think the tweet shared earlier eases some of those concerns. Sure, it's a single game, but players don't just accidentally get 13 assists in a game.

Also, I found a full game from this weekend that I watched a few minutes of. The link below starts at a stretch where he has 2 rebounds and three assists on three straight offensive possessions.
https://www.youtube.com/live/98TcpNt7_v8?feature=share&t=1265

There's been a lot of discussion around whether he's really able to be a primary PG in the sense that Kane and Smart were, or if he's more like a secondary playmaker in the way that Holmes is and THT and Burton were. Frankly, now I see better what it sounds like the staff sees and feel like he can be the former.
This is a cool find, thanks for sharing.

I feel like it comes back to highlight/mixtape culture in basketball a bit, where solid passes just don't make a mixtape if that makes sense. I'd seen enough of his handling to feel like he could do that part, but nice to see some real gameplay.
 
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Well as long as you feel comfortable with it, I'm sure the staff will feel at ease now too. JFC
Okay, I never doubted the staff. In the earlier conversations, I was the one agreeing with the staff. I just thought the post was worth making considering how many people on CF have said he didn't seem like a PG.
 

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I've been wondering the same. Transfer portal had been really good to us and wondering why TJ is taking so many high school kids. Are we going to pull 3 really good ones every year and fill the gaps with transfers? Seems like a good mix of player development and hitting the free agency market.
With how well the Bonnie transfers have been you gotta think Otz will continue to hit the transfer market. I'm still fuzzy on the sit a year out thing. Jaren Holmes and Ossuniyiyi didn't have to sit right, was that just because of the free COVID year or is that a permanent thing now?
 

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With how well the Bonnie transfers have been you gotta think Otz will continue to hit the transfer market. I'm still fuzzy on the sit a year out thing. Jaren Holmes and Ossuniyiyi didn't have to sit right, was that just because of the free COVID year or is that a permanent thing now?
The NCAA allows a 1 time transfer with 99% approval with out sitting out. Once that has ben utilized it back to the old process where the player is expected to Red Shirt a year unless there is hardship waiver or grad transfer.

Tre king got caught in the worst case scenario where he used his 1 time free transfer enrolled only to have an issue and be dismissed by the team. Hi waiver was denied thus he sat basically 1.5 years.
 

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Okay, I never doubted the staff. In the earlier conversations, I was the one agreeing with the staff. I just thought the post was worth making considering how many people on CF have said he didn't seem like a PG.
No reason to quote or argue w/ Mr. M. He is likely to bite your head off. :D
 

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I think TJ may be going after bigger and extremely physical guards as our future frontcourt of Rock, Momcilovic and Indrusaitis are all extremely skilled on the perimeter and can fill it up from 3. Especially Momcilovic and Indrusaitis. Run inverted offensive schemes. Make other teams opposing bigs defend the perimeter and opposing guards defend the paint. Matchup nightmares and make the opposing defense defend in areas they are not comfortable. We did a ton of that during the Hoiberg years especially with Niang and Ejim/Kane.
 

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