When they shoot 50.8% of the game and we shoot 34.5% it is tough to win.
Starting to sound like a broken record...
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When they shoot 50.8% of the game and we shoot 34.5% it is tough to win.
KU has McD All-Americans sitting on their bench,
How about putting someone else besides Petersen and Haluska on the Big 12's best player. Collins abused those two.
Living in Corvallis, I have adopted the Beavs as my second favorite team. After watching both the Clones and Beavs play today, what annoys me is the fact that Robinson has managed to win back-to-back road games in the Pac10 in his 1st year with basically the same team that went winless last year in the conference and Mac in his 3rd year still "needs more time"!!!!!!!!!! WTF! I am tired of waiting for ISU to improve. Patience is a virtue .... I know, but I am starting to tire of waiting around for next year.
It's not an equation, it's a statement of fact.Wow, that's a convincing equation...![]()
As others have pointed out, athleticism is directly responsible for those shooting percentages.Cyclones <> Good Team Shooting
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Jayhawks = Good Team Shooting.
Alot to reply to here...
It's really about defense. We ALLOWED open looks and KU didn't. They were going to try and take away Brackins down low while still rotating on shooters and let him and all out other bigs shoot anything outside of 10 feet. We couldn't guard the perimeter. When we try and crowd them they blow by, when we sag, they shoot... It had nothing to do with the SHOOTING.
Don't know what you saw, but I saw us force up alot of closely guarded threes, that doesn't scream open to me...
Position to me means movement to get open looks. Our only open looks were from big guys outside 10 feet. We have two guys that can hit that shot...
Exactly!
No, but he has had three years to bring in guys that can play over him...and he hasn't...
Sums it up...
See my points earlier. It's a whole lot easier to shoot a better percentage when one team gets open looks and the other team is forcing guarded shots...
College BB is about talent and guard play. We really don't heave either yet. I love the hustle of BP and SH, but the bottom line is they would not start for most Valley teams, if any. Collins could have dropped 50 on Peterson if he needed to. At least Haluska can play some D.
It simply baffles me why Boozer and Buckley don't play more. Garrett gave KU at least 8 points with getting his pocket picked. Collins scored about 20 with Peterson guarding him. Why not play the scholarship players more? Give them time to learn? The season is a loss anyway, its not like we are playing for a tournament bid. Bring in the new guys, I have seen enough of the walk on seniors to last me a lifetime.
I know you refuse to give the team any credit, but we clearly had open looks yesterday. I'm not sure how you could say otherwise.
I will give the TEAM credit, they played very tough dispited the talent advantage KU had. They just weren't put in a place to succeed...
Anyone watching Gameday? They should the high lights and actually had more Brackins high lights than KU high lights, and Bobby Knight said I don't care I want to talk about Butler, so he blah blah blahd about Butler while they were showing brackins high-lights. Then he ended it with we should be showing Butler and "not whoever the hell was playing Kansas" **** you Bob Knight
I think you had some blinders on last night. They were put in a place to succeed, but the "TEAM" couldn't make the open looks.
Count me in with being tired of watching walk-ons trying to compete. They bust their humps and no one can deny their effort, but the talent simply isn't there.
I would have to agree, BUT we had our chances in this one despite the poor shooting as a team. When we cut the lead to six with a few minutes to go (3 or 4), hilton was coming alive, that had to have been the loudest of the game. As all of u seen after that moment we just couldn't convert on the offensive end. Can't complain about Brackins though, awesome performance.
I dont think you should say everyone. Alot were excited to see them play but realists probably felt that they would not be game makers. Staiger has helped quite a few games and has been playing some decent ball, just not a difference maker yet. The other two need some development time and I knew they would. Dont take peoples excitement about new recruits away from them. Their energy is what keeps me excited about ISU sports from year to year. Sometimes they go a little overboard.
So who besides Brackins and Vanderbeeken had OPEN LOOKS. At the game and watching the DVR this morning, not one guard got more than one open look. Lucca was running off screens shooting 22 ft fadeaways because he couldn't get a guy off him. We shot plenty of forced guarded shots, but not open the open looks KU was getting... You can put it on the players all you want I guess...
Wow, that's a convincing equation...
Here's mine:
We shot terrible as a "team."
Cyclones <> Good Team Shooting
They shot very well as a "team."
Jayhawks = Good Team Shooting.
Beyond that, the "Big XII" talent & styles of play were there on both sides in the game I watched. We just need a few guys besides CB to step up and make shots. They did not dominate us based on overbearing talent or style of play - we just didn't make our shots and they made theirs.
Kansas Shooting:
FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A
31 for 61 | 6 for 13 | 14 for 18
50.80% | 46.20% | 77.80%
ISU Shooting:
FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A
19 for 55 | 6 for 26 | 23 for 27
34.50% | 23.10% | 85.20%
College BB is about talent and guard play. We really don't heave either yet. I love the hustle of BP and SH, but the bottom line is they would not start for most Valley teams, if any. Collins could have dropped 50 on Peterson if he needed to. At least Haluska can play some D.
It simply baffles me why Boozer and Buckley don't play more. Garrett gave KU at least 8 points with getting his pocket picked. Collins scored about 20 with Peterson guarding him. Why not play the scholarship players more? Give them time to learn? The season is a loss anyway, its not like we are playing for a tournament bid. Bring in the new guys, I have seen enough of the walk on seniors to last me a lifetime.
To be positive, CB played fantastic. Hamilton is a quick learner. JVB made some shots. The defense improved. Like many posters have said, its about going out and getting talent, guys who can create their own shot, or can get fouled. It sounds like we have some of those coming in next year. KU has McD All-Americans sitting on their bench, we have walkons. The outcome should not really shock anyone.
All I can say is where is Wesley Johnson when you need him! For God sake, imagine the combination of Brackins and Johnson on the court right now. Johnson transferring makes me sick!!!!
Yeah, a Butler team that is in the top 20 and is 18-1...how dare he talk about them! The gaul...BUTLER IS TOO YOUNG TO BE ANY GOOD. Did you know:
+ Of Butler's top 8...they have 3 freshman, 4 sophomores, and only 1 junior.
+ Their top player is a sophomore, the next 2 are freshmen, the next is the junior, and the fifth is another freshman. They top three off the bench are all sophs.
I WONDER IF BUTLER IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR "YOUNG TEAM" OF GUYS THAT WERE NOT MCDONALD'S AAs?