All FB coaching rumors and speculation

[SCNCY]

Yeah, I thought that same thing. Schools like this and the NFL keep printing money to pay coaches, which drives up the cost for everyone else to keep them around.

10 years ago
#1 Mac Brown at 5M
#2 Saban at 4.6M
#3 Stoops at 4M

Not sure we can keep up this pace.

I think the biggest difference between the NFL and College football is that in college you have donors. In the NFL, you have rich owners, but to me, they seem to stay within the bounds of their own financial budgets. No one is donating money to for profit NFL teams to retain their coaches (unless your the packers).

In College football, you have a bunch of ego driven donors who can't afford their own professional team, so their only option is the college level. Then it just turns in to a **** measuring contest between everyone, and that costs money in order to have a bigger **** then the next person.

But as far as escalating coaches salaries, you see the same thing in businesses. When a company fires their CEO, or they retire, the new CEO who comes in wants to make at least what the previous CEO made, despite any experience being a CEO or not. The public knowledge of what CEO's and Coaches salaries are makes it easy to know the direction of the market. Most of us who work normal office jobs rely on news articles and recruiters to get an idea of what we could make somewhere else, but its not as concrete or easy.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Honestly I’ve come around to CMC staying and think he could really be like a more successful pat fitzgerald where he just likes where he is and has unlimited job security. Being a coach at LSU, FU, texas etc has to be very mentally taxing.

At the high profile schools, it's almost always outrageous success or bust, with bust being lack of outrageous success for one or two years.

 

[madguy30]

The Twitter is saying the University of Washington has given Matt until 11 o'clock today to accept their offer.

Not sure if that's Pacific or Central time.

Oh, do they have a long line of candidates they need to get to?

 

[jsb]

The Twitter is saying the University of Washington has given Matt until 11 o'clock today to accept their offer.

Not sure if that's Pacific or Central time.

Hopefully nothing changes with that one. The podcast tells me that things are probably going to be ok but I’d like some confirmation today.

 

[Urbandale2013]

The more a person makes, the more they spend. It is easy to spend millions a year, especially with kids. Vacation homes, extra vehicles (vehicle for the vacation home), private chefs, etc.

While I don’t disagree it is easier to spend money as you make more I still have a tough time spending the type of money we are talking about. Spending millions a year is just flat out hard. That doesn’t mean you can’t do it but it isn’t easy either.

I also think it is a lot easier if you are not a football coach at a P5 school. You have to live a completely different lifestyle to spend that much money. One that is antithetical to everything Campbell preaches.

 

[KnappShack]

Oh, do they have a long line of candidates they need to get to?

Obviously taking a hard line in the Pacific Northwest!

But it's Twitter so the info is really worthless....until it's not.

 

[madguy30]

Obviously taking a hard line in the Pacific Northwest!

But it's Twitter so the info is really worthless....until it's not.

'member the 1200 post thread about CMC to USC and then Lincoln Riley took the job a day after their last regular season game?

Good times.

 

[AlaCyclone]

The Twitter is saying the University of Washington has given Matt until 11 o'clock today to accept their offer.

Not sure if that's Pacific or Central time.

True Story:

I flew to Seattle for the 1992 Southern California @ Washington Game with a friend for a random new football experience. Caught a Mariners game the night before in the Kingdome too.

On Saturday morning, we were enjoying a liesurely walk around campus, and I wondered why there were so few people about?

Then, we realized kickoff was just a few minutes away not an hour and a few minutes away. Lord have mercy, I had mixed up my time-zones!

Well, we made it in the stadium for kickoff, but my football buddy and I still laugh about that from time to time.

Great Game too. The Huskies (who were ranked #2) beat the Trojans 17-10.

Moral of the Story: Beware of the Seattle, Washington Huskies Time-Zone Vortex!

 

[BCClone]

While I don’t disagree it is easier to spend money as you make more I still have a tough time spending the type of money we are talking about. Spending millions a year is just flat out hard. That doesn’t mean you can’t do it but it isn’t easy either.

I also think it is a lot easier if you are not a football coach at a P5 school. You have to live a completely different lifestyle to spend that much money. One that is antithetical to everything Campbell preaches.

Vacation homes are expensive. Let alone now you need boats, jet skis, grounds crew because you won’t be there. They generally start business/s and don’t borrow but push cash to them. Know people who trade cars every 6 months, that’s an expensive habit.

When you think about spending the money, many times what the very wealthy spend it on is similar but just 10 notches higher end stuff. You buy a $1000 suit, they have a $10,000 tailored suit made. You have a 300,000 home, they have a 5MM lake home. You renovate your kitchen for 25k every 10-15 years they gut and redo for 100k every 3-5 years to keep up with their neighbors and what is hit on HG TV.

Your parties may be BYOB for your 10 good friends. They provide everything for basically the whole neighborhood to show. My wife has a friend like this, thankfully she has accepted that we won’t keep up with them in anyway and we are doing better than most.

Also remember, nearly half will go to taxes. So your 80k with take home of 60-65 seems closer when their 8MM has a 4 MM take home.

 

[Rabbuk]

Vacation homes are expensive. Let alone now you need boats, jet skis, grounds crew because you won’t be there. They generally start business/s and don’t borrow but push cash to them. Know people who trade cars every 6 months, that’s an expensive habit.

When you think about spending the money, many times what the very wealthy spend it on is similar but just 10 notches higher end stuff. You buy a $1000 suit, they have a $10,000 tailored suit made. You have a 300,000 home, they have a 5MM lake home. You renovate your kitchen for 25k every 10-15 years they gut and redo for 100k every 3-5 years to keep up with their neighbors and what is hit on HG TV.

Your parties may be BYOB for your 10 good friends. They provide everything for basically the whole neighborhood to show. My wife has a friend like this, thankfully she has accepted that we won’t keep up with them in anyway and we are doing better than most.

Also remember, nearly half will go to taxes. So your 80k with take home of 60-65 seems closer when their 8MM has a 4 MM take home.

I imagine that a lot of the tax advantages associated with CEO compensation don't apply to P5 coaches much either, so while they may "make" similar amounts, they likely don't take home even nearly the same amount as a peer group CEO would. But I am not a tax accountant or financial advisor.

 

[ISU_Guy]

I think the biggest difference between the NFL and College football is that in college you have donors. In the NFL, you have rich owners, but to me, they seem to stay within the bounds of their own financial budgets. No one is donating money to for profit NFL teams to retain their coaches (unless your the packers).

In College football, you have a bunch of ego driven donors who can't afford their own professional team, so their only option is the college level. Then it just turns in to a **** measuring contest between everyone, and that costs money in order to have a bigger **** then the next person.

But as far as escalating coaches salaries, you see the same thing in businesses. When a company fires their CEO, or they retire, the new CEO who comes in wants to make at least what the previous CEO made, despite any experience being a CEO or not. The public knowledge of what CEO's and Coaches salaries are makes it easy to know the direction of the market. Most of us who work normal office jobs rely on news articles and recruiters to get an idea of what we could make somewhere else, but its not as concrete or easy.

This is a really good post. it is like a **** measuring contest.
Only thing with companies like Principal and Nationwide is I am guessing they have more than a 100M budget to play with....Either way all these guys make way to much money.
But its the world we live in and have to play or get out. I would rather play.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Speaking of Nebraska how long will they keep Frost?

I actually think they're doing the right thing. Look at Michigan. I get that Michigan has had much more real success but I think you have to be very careful getting rid of guys if they show an ounce of promise and I think Nebraska is close to being a pretty decent team. They just need to learn to win. There aren't many obvious coaches at lower levels to hire and it's been show to be really hard to get guys at the lower level of P5 schools as well.

Now, 3-9 next year is probably getting fired but I don't think they will be that bad.

 

[Clonehomer]

Were people actually scared that Campbell was actually leaving ISU? I mean, has he ever once given us any reason to doubt his word?

I was worried mostly because of the makeup of the team this year. With so many seniors, this was the year that seemed to make sense if he was ever considering it. If he stays this year, I have no doubt that he's staying a long time.

 

[CoachHines3]

Were people actually scared that Campbell was actually leaving ISU? I mean, has he ever once given us any reason to doubt his word?

I was worried mostly because of the makeup of the team this year. With so many seniors, this was the year that seemed to make sense if he was ever considering it. If he stays this year, I have no doubt that he's staying a long time.

My only concern was the timing. Everything basically came to a head this year with the seniors.

If he took the USC job, though, it would go against everything he's every said publicly about the state of college football and the loyalty aspect.

I've always had the stance that I will be worried if its Penn State, Michigan, or Ohio St.

 

[Blandboy]

He

He left Toledo. Plus coaches lie. But I am happy he continues to prove me wrong.

Toledo wasn't in a Power 5 conference, so there was no path to the play-offs there.

 

[Cyclones1969]

I actually think they're doing the right thing. Look at Michigan. I get that Michigan has had much more real success but I think you have to be very careful getting rid of guys if they show an ounce of promise and I think Nebraska is close to being a pretty decent team. They just need to learn to win. There aren't many obvious coaches at lower levels to hire and it's been show to be really hard to get guys at the lower level of P5 schools as well.

Now, 3-9 next year is probably getting fired but I don't think they will be that bad.

They finally get the standard Iowa big 10 west schedule next year. The only tough East team they play is at Michigan.

they should be able to cobble together 7 wins. If they don’t, then he’s gone

 

[ISU_Guy]

With Nebraska, I think we are going to see a flip of script next year.
They had about everything go wrong that could in 9 games last year. They get it figured out and get back to 8-9+ wins next year.

I think they beat NW, North Dakota, Georgia Southern, Rutgers, indiana, Minny, Purdue, Illinios and Maybe Iowa next year. they don't play MSU, Penn State or Ohio State

Just think that 8-10 wins was unacceptable just a short 10 years ago and now they would kill for it.

Then maybe Iowa gets their script flipped and every single deflected ball doesn't end up as a pick six, etc. and they come back to earth? They get OSU and Michigan back on the schedule next year. But no MSU or Penn State...

 

[CloniesForLife]

With Nebraska, I think we are going to see a flip of script next year.
They had about everything go wrong that could in 9 games last year. They get it figured out and get back to 8-9+ wins next year.

I think they beat NW, North Dakota, Georgia Southern, Rutgers, indiana, Minny, Purdue, Illinios and Maybe Iowa next year. they don't play MSU, Penn State or Ohio State

Just think that 8-10 wins was unacceptable just a short 10 years ago and now they would kill for it.

Then maybe Iowa gets their script flipped and every single deflected ball doesn't end up as a pick six, etc. and they come back to earth? They get OSU and Michigan back on the schedule next year. But no MSU or Penn State...

MN has owned Nebby lately and Mo Ibrahim and Tanner Morgan are coming back. I wouldn't chalk that one up as automatic

 

[KnappShack]

Footballscoop.com says this about Matt, but says Fickel is loyal to Cincinnati.

The only schools Fickel would consider?
Notre Dame
Ohio State


MATT CAMPBELL, IOWA STATE HC: Already a proven force in the Big 12, Campbell has been a trendy candidate for a number of top jobs – he was, per sources, among the candidates vetted by USC – but remained loyal to Iowa State.

However, there is a sense in the industry that Campbell is more open to exploring a move as the Cyclones bid farewell to one of the program's all-time winningest groups of upperclassmen

 

[CyclonesRock]

Asked about his interest in the TCU opening, Campbell said that he is perfectly happy at Iowa State, and that is his only focus nowadays.

"I've answered this question for a long time,” Campbell said, via Michael Swain of CycloneAlert. “I think what my history has said and who I've been is exactly what I've done in terms of where I'm interested in being and really what I'm interested in doing. We've got such a great fan base, such a great program right now at Iowa State and what we're doing and what we're building. Really, I'm just worried about our program and nothing outside of it."

Campbell was then asked if it’s “safe to say” that he hasn’t been in contact with TCU.

"Yes, that's certainly safe to say,” Campbell said.

Iowa State's Matt Campbell shoots down TCU coaching rumors

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I remember watching that press conference. Randy P from the DMR was the one that asked the follow up question. "Is it safe to say..." The look on Campbell's face conveyed to Randy he just asked another dumb ass question. I busted out laughing.

Just like the sun rising in the east...