Aaron Rodgers

[Bigman38]

Completely disagree that GB has the leverage here, they’ve looked like idiots every step of the way since last year. Losing the MVP is the kind of stuff that turns front office guys into household names, so everyone can call talk about how bad they are.

 

[Rural]

Some of the teams that appear to be on the cusp AND have all kinds of draft capital might take a run at this.

Miami for instance.

 

[Neptune78]

Maybe if Rodgers runs in for the TD late against TB, and goes on to win the SB against the Chiefs without their tackles, Aaron would not be throwing his drama queen hissy fit. And I mean queen.

 

[VeloClone]

I would never underestimate how stubborn Aaron Rodgers can be. That's one of his defining characteristics. I don't think he's all that concerned about looking bad, nor should he be. There's a popular narrative that Green Bay has done him dirty over the years by not surrounding him with enough offensive talent through the draft or by other means. A narrative backed up by last year's draft where they appeared to be moving on from him. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, that's a perception that's out there. Some of their own fans even subscribe to it. If Rodgers holds his ground and sits out for a year, he'll still have plenty of lucrative opportunities with other teams. He's the reigning MVP and one of the best to ever play QB. He'd still be in very high demand after sitting out. Green Bay doesn't hold as many cards as you think.

This is kind of stupid. Rodgers was 36 during last year's draft when they drafted a QB. Let's look at GB history: In 2005 GB drafted a QB to learn behind Brett Favre. Favre's age at the time? 36. That QB (Aaron Rodgers) sat behind Favre for 3 seasons. They didn't replace Favre with Rodgers until Favre couldn't make a decision whether he was coming back or not. I know that Favre's departure was messy, but that had more to do with Favre's retirement/unretirement dithering than anything else. Why should anyone assume that GB is doing anything different than they did when they drafted Rodgers to learn behind Favre?

I am not a GB fan so I have no dog in this fight.

 

[Mr Janny]

This is kind of stupid. Rodgers was 36 during last year's draft when they drafted a QB. Let's look at GB history: In 2005 GB drafted a QB to learn behind Brett Favre. Favre's age at the time? 36. That QB (Aaron Rodgers) sat behind Favre for 3 seasons. They didn't replace Favre with Rodgers until Favre couldn't make a decision whether he was coming back or not. I know that Favre's departure was messy, but that had more to do with Favre's retirement/unretirement dithering than anything else. Why should anyone assume that GB is doing anything different than they did when they drafted Rodgers to learn behind Favre?

I am not a GB fan so I have no dog in this fight.

I doesn't matter if the narrative is stupid or if there's a history of doing the same thing, or of Green Bay has reasonable justification for their actions. Perception is reality when these dramas play out in public.

 

[IAStubborn]

Spoiled with almost 3 decades straight of having a hall of fame QB under center, and only 2 championships to show for it. That's actually kinda sad.

Bears haven’t had one in 70 years despite how many attempts to draft one?

 

[Tornado man]

This. He can’t get along with his family either.

Yeah - maybe if he sits out he'll find the time to talk to his parents...

 

[Clonefan32]

Completely disagree that GB has the leverage here, they’ve looked like idiots every step of the way since last year. Losing the MVP is the kind of stuff that turns front office guys into household names, so everyone can call talk about how bad they are.

I can't imagine Green Bay would be too thrilled about the position it puts Love in either. "Go be the starter with zero NFL experience and oh yah, the fans see you as the guy involved in running the MVP out of town." Can you imagine the pressure he'd be under, with the fans knowing his being drafted was a primary cause for Rodgers skipping town?

 

[Neptune78]

I think one of the more ludicrous narratives out there is that the Packers should have consulted/communicated with Rodgers prior to the draft that they were going to take Jordon Love. Rodgers needs to worry about his play and his contract. And his next mind cleansing vacation.
Players are not paid to make personnel decisions.

 

[VeloClone]

I doesn't matter if the narrative is stupid or if there's a history of doing the same thing, or of Green Bay has reasonable justification for their actions. Perception is reality when these dramas play out in public.

The public is stupid, you are right. However Rodgers should have a little perspective on this part of it since he was in the middle of it last time around. The team could have been forthcoming with communication to Rodgers as to what exactly they were thinking about doing and why. Maybe they did and he was pissy and didn't listen or maybe they didn't and he felt stabbed in the back. Or maybe there isn't a problem around this issue and just the media and fans think there is, I don't know.

That being said, I can't speak to the other stupid stuff that organization has done over the years to damage the relationship. I also can't speak to his personality, either. He may have been a prima donna from the start or he may have just got more and more frustrated with the organization over the years or all of the MVPs and awards just went to his head. Or maybe he isn't as bad as people say and it is all blown out of proportion. But you aren't as successful as he is for as long as he has been without a strong, tough personality.

 

[cycfan1]

What? Rodgers’ last contract he signed was a record breaking contract. He’s got arguably the best WR in the league. A top 5 running back. A top tier O-line every year. And should’ve been pro bowl TE. Should the Packers invest a little better in the WR department? Yes. But offense is never the problem. The Packers haven’t had a top 10 defense in the past 10 years. #8 in 2010 and look, they won a super bowl. 9 out of the last 10 drafts, they’ve gone defense because that’s what they need badly every year.

Sure, lets tell Matt Campbell the last contract he signed 3 years ago was good enough for top half of the Big 12, despite fact it has been passed over multiple times.

Give the guy an extension, raise whatever.

He's clearly pretty full of himself, but make him feel that way at least.

Whether or not you 'need' to invest in offense, at least drafting a WR yday would have made it appeared that you were going for it this year.

Its all about optics. Not saying Rodgers isn't to blame, but GB has already lost the PR battle

 

[VeloClone]

I think one of the more ludicrous narratives out there is that the Packers should have consulted/communicated with Rodgers prior to the draft that they were going to take Jordon Love. Rodgers needs to worry about his play and his contract. And his next mind cleansing vacation.
Players are not paid to make personnel decisions.

Meh. I don't think there is anything wrong with communicating (not necessarily asking for his input although they could say we are going to look at taking a QB to learn behind you; what do you think of Love? if they wanted to create more buy in) on the draft decision prior to the draft. Let the MVP and face of the organization know that you are taking a guy not to replace him but to sit behind him and learn from him and take over only when Rodgers has had enough and/or can't play to the level he wants to play at.

They wouldn't have to do that but it would be good internal communication to keep the thought of drafting over* out of the picture.

*The term "drafting over" is ludicrous when talking about the league MVP.

 

[isufbcurt]

Yeah - maybe if he sits out he'll find the time to talk to his parents...

I'd guess he'd be to busy banging Shalene

 

[Neptune78]

Meh. I don't think there is anything wrong with communicating (not necessarily asking for his input although they could say we are going to look at taking a QB to learn behind you; what do you think of Love? if they wanted to create more buy in) on the draft decision prior to the draft. Let the MVP and face of the organization know that you are taking a guy not to replace him but to sit behind him and learn from him and take over only when Rodgers has had enough and/or can't play to the level he wants to play at.

They wouldn't have to do that but it would be good internal communication to keep the thought of drafting over* out of the picture.

*The term "drafting over" is ludicrous when talking about the league MVP.

As smart as Rodgers is hyped to be, nobody should have to explain to him that the Packers were not trying to bring in a rookie to draft over an MVP.

Rodgers was a headcase with the last coach. Last year he 'was having the most fun of his career' with the new coach. Now we're back to headcase.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

You would have thought GB would have grabbed an offensive player with their first round pick. They sure are a hard franchise to like.

 

[AuH2O]

Packers fan and Rodgers fan. The organization hasn't made good decisions for years and wasn't too many pieces away from a title the past few years but refused to make the moves to put them over the top. Now, they're going to be stuck with Love or a has-been from elsewhere and they're going to regress a lot. Rodgers made that team go, and while they didn't go to the SB as much as they could have, they would have been terrible with most other QBs in his place.

As much as I hate Brady, there are a lot of parallels. Just like Manning, they make everybody else so much better. I love Manning and he made the move to Denver and won a title in his best statistical year. Brady won a title with a pieced together mess in TB. As much as I'd like AR to win another title in GB, I'd almost rather see him win it wherever he goes.

Tampa was not a pieced together mess. The prior year they were 7-9 and 3rd in the league in total offense with a dumbass QB that threw 30 picks. Then they add TB, Fournette and Gronk. It was a good roster that needed a QB.

 

[VeloClone]

You would have thought GB would have grabbed an offensive player with their first round pick. They sure are a hard franchise to like.

2020
Total offense rank: 5
Offense Points rank: 1
Total defense rank: 9
Defense Points rank: 13

 

[JM4CY]

I'd guess he'd be to busy banging Shalene

Can you blame him?

 

[Cyched]

You would have thought GB would have grabbed an offensive player with their first round pick. They sure are a hard franchise to like.

Would’ve been fun. Every packers beat writer I’ve seen says CB was the #1 priority. That Stokes is raw but has a high ceiling.

I can get excited about a CB that isn’t named Kevin King

 

[Sigmapolis]

This is kind of stupid. Rodgers was 36 during last year's draft when they drafted a QB. Let's look at GB history: In 2005 GB drafted a QB to learn behind Brett Favre. Favre's age at the time? 36. That QB (Aaron Rodgers) sat behind Favre for 3 seasons. They didn't replace Favre with Rodgers until Favre couldn't make a decision whether he was coming back or not. I know that Favre's departure was messy, but that had more to do with Favre's retirement/unretirement dithering than anything else. Why should anyone assume that GB is doing anything different than they did when they drafted Rodgers to learn behind Favre?

I am not a GB fan so I have no dog in this fight.

Green Bay being willing to move on from Favre when he kept up the "will he or won't he" retirement drama every spring had a lot to do with knowing what they had in Rodgers waiting behind him on the bench.

If they weren't confident in Rodgers back in the day, I don't think they tell Favre to take a hike.

Not sure they're in the same position now with Love.