Having LW back would certainly open up more offensive options, but I'm not sure if it plugs the D holes. If we could have and LW AND Cam (with a great work attitude), then we'd be talking a Dance invite.
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Having LW back would certainly open up more offensive options, but I'm not sure if it plugs the D holes. If we could have and LW AND Cam (with a great work attitude), then we'd be talking a Dance invite.
He would probably be on the bench behind Nixon cause who knows why.
LW was as bad as Terrence on D
It's not like THT, LW, and Shayok were drafted into the Army and sent to Vietnam. It should have been no surprise that they wouldn't be here this year.
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It's a single elimination tournament. And this is only 2 samples. Would you fire Coach K because Duke went out the first round in 06-07, the second round in 07-08, and only sweet 16 in 08-09?
To be fair, cycloneworld was talking about only making it past the Sweet 16, not winning the tournament.
I don't think plugging D holes would make this team perform any better.
our injuries are just false excuses for a loser coach. Their injuries are the only reason said loser coach could ever have a chance to beat them.
I would just like to point out that this is not true....
BDJ: 11 career starts
Monté Morris: 14 career starts
Abdel Nader: 7 career starts
I definitely see your point though... It is dang near impossible to get some talented players to play up to their potential together.
Oh, it would help. It would tone down the effects of those massive scoring droughts we go on if the other team also can't score.
Obviously Prohm is deserving of some criticism but holy **** for all the people who just want to see the negatives.
It must take more than a coach. Our last "bad" ex-coach is coaching the 10th rated team in the country this year.
Why would filling their D holes stop the other team from scoring? Seems like the pain or discomfort would prevent them from playing well on either end.
I don't think that's accurate based off of stats or the eye test. Lindell was no Monte on defense, but he was close to average for a starter according to Defensive Box Plus/Minus and Defensive Win Shares. Lewis has not been.
Now, stats like these are not easily comparable between a starting PG that got 33 minutes per game/6th man that got 26 MPG and a bench wing with inconsistent minutes.
That's why I mention the eyeball test.
Wigginton -
Without going back to review tape I remember Lindell being a ball-watcher when playing off the ball. He got some decent steals from that but also "got lost" and gave up layups or caused team defensive rotation breakdowns and open shots because of it.
When he was an on-ball defender in one-on-one situations he was good at disrupting ball handlers by staying in front and had pretty good hands too.
But with pick-and-roll defense he had issues getting over or around screens due to bad footwork. He would often meet a screener at a perpendicular angle and get stuck.
Pros and cons add up to be somewhat equal in the stat-Gods' eyes. In my opinion they tip toward the negative because I'd rather a point guard not gamble on defense unless they have supreme physical tools to do it. It puts more stress on your own defense to recover and puts you in scramble drill rotations.
Lewis -
We've all seen the struggles. It's become his narrative and a talking point for color commentators. He can physically be fine at defense. Maybe even pretty good. I remember watching his footwork as a freshman making closeouts and cutting off driving angles and being hopeful for him to grow in to a solid 3 and D guy. We see tiny glimpses of it when he's making high-effort, hustle plays on defense (and on the offensive glass).
Something has not clicked for him in this situation over the past 3 years (almost).
Links for reference. Look in the Advanced section for the two stats I mentioned above.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/lindell-wigginton-1.html#all_players_advanced
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/terrence-lewis-2.html#all_players_advanced
Fine. Scratch "NBA guys" with talent. We've had a ton of talent on our teams under Prohm and we don't have that much to show for it. I think, in general, Prohm has under performed considering the amount of talent on each team - and done it consistently.
Even with Hoiberg's players, in 2015-16 we started the season ranked in the Top 5 and finished 10-8 in the conference. We did make a sweet 16 which is great. 2016-7 was the only year we maintained our position and actually improved towards the end of the year. 2017-8 was a disaster. 2018-19 I don't think anyone would argue that we vastly underachieved. And then we have this year. This trend doesn't give me a lot of confidence that Prohm can develop players and winning teams.
