This is why Prohm must go........

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Here’s what I have so far. What else you got? No opinions just facts.

Pros:
Treats players equally, no one above the law
Recruits at a high level
Identifies underrated talent
Cons:
Not great at managing talent/egos
Lack of in-game adjustments
Below average Xs and Os

I feel like we’re a near elite offense based on kenpom so I don’t know about your below average X’s And O’s thing. The weird fixation on inbounds plays is another weird thing happening around here. It’s a microscopic part of the larger picture but people act like they would be happier scoring 4 points a game from inbounds plays than they are with pulling in top 50 kids on the recruiting trail.
 
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I feel like we’re a near elite offense based on kenpom so I don’t know about your below average X’s And O’s thing. The weird fixation on inbounds plays is another weird thing happening around here. It’s a microscopic part of the larger picture but people act like they would be happier scoring 4 points a game from inbounds plays than they are with pulling in top 50 kids on the recruiting trail.
I don't think it's the lack of scoring on inbounds plays, (but seriously how hard is it to copy a decent play or 2), I think it is the complete lack of ability to even get the ball inbounds that we we're seeing a month ago. We have a 6'-5" senior point guard and we aren't able to inbound the ball. I felt like we couldn't call time outs to stop 10-0 runs by the other team because we needed to save the time outs so we would avoid the 5 count.
 

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Prohm needs an offensive mentor on the staff. A former head coach that is a good offensive mind that can bring some fresh ideas in. Or any ideas at all.

I like Prohm and think the results under him so far have been acceptable. 3 tourney appearances, 2 conference titles, and a sweet 16 over 4 years is a nice place for our program to be. I don’t think Prohm is a good scheme coach or good game day coach so he needs to correct his weakness as a coach by hiring someone to help in that area.
We need a defensive mentor before offense.
 

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I don't think it's the lack of scoring on inbounds plays, (but seriously how hard is it to copy a decent play or 2), I think it is the complete lack of ability to even get the ball inbounds that we we're seeing a month ago. We have a 6'-5" senior point guard and we aren't able to inbound the ball. I felt like we couldn't call time outs to stop 10-0 runs by the other team because we needed to save the time outs so we would avoid the 5 count.

That’s emotions talking and not fact.
 
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Nope--facts talking not emotion. I often wondered during the season if Prohm got and extra $1000 for every unused timeout. To let teams go on 20-2, 16-0 runs and never call a timeout is just coaching malpractice. And the out of timeout plays were a joke. You look at what Bill Self or Fred ran out of a timeout and compare it to our last 3 years---again its just a joke. Let's be honest: CSP is just happy to be here and collect his $2 million/year. He's a mid-major coach and that's all he'll ever be.
 

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We had an awful lot of open looks we just couldn't knock down. Suppose that's Prohm's fault.


Hoiberg had a worse loss to UAB.....hell Tony Bennett had the worst loss of 'em all last year. Losing stinks but it's life. On to the next year.

I'm not sure some are going to make it to next week.
 

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This just proves to me you know nothing about basketball. Dustin was a consistent outside threat.

Dustin was actually really special because he had a 3-pt shot but he also had a great post up game. When he was playing the 3 we would get lots of easy buckets off his post ups.
 
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This is stupid post and you should feel stupid for posting it, if indeed you are capable of self-awareness in the first place.

Do you dumba$$es who are screaming and complaining about beating double digit seeds in the tournament even understand how seeding works in the NCAA tournament? The reason we have victories over teams like Iona, etc., is because those are the "mid major" kind of teams you play when you are seeded 4th or 5th, and they are a 12 or 13 seed. Are we really supposed to be angry that we only beat a 12 seed Arkansas Little Rock who was good enough (and well coached enough by Chris Beard back then) to be able to come back against and then beat 5th seeded Purdue in the first round back in 2016? That's a shameful victory? FFS, you idiots wouldn't be happy with a national championship unless we had to beat the NBA's Western conference All-Star team to do it.

You should be equally unhappy with the 2014 team for beating NC Central in the first round, but since that team was led by your Golden Boy who you still cry and pine over I'm sure you consider it one of his best victories during his tenure at Iowa State.

This is dumb. The point he was making wasn't that beating seeds so low is shameful. He's arguing that we should expect Prohm to get a win or two against a seed better than 12.

Nobody argued that we should go on a run beating Duke, Gonzaga, UNC, Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee and the 1968 Bruins to win a title, just that we should expect a coach to be able to accomplish a simple win against a seed better than a 12.
 

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Prohm is a great representative of the University who will stay above board and do things the right way in regards to the players. He isn't going to the final four though. If you are oK with that then you should be OK with me bitchin about it.
I'm ok with you ******** about it...freedom of speech. But unless you're a time traveler from the future, you have no idea whether Prohm can lead us to a Final Four. The one thing he seems to do pretty well is recruit. He continues to bring top talent in, we'll always be in the conversation. He IS capable of improving himself as a coach too. Although I'm curious of how he goes about doing this.
 
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I think we were very idealistic this year in that we ran an offense where everybody shared the ball. Kind of like Golden State. It just turned into a shell drill, though. Need to turn it into a simpler offense where the decisions are more limited.
 

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This is dumb. The point he was making wasn't that beating seeds so low is shameful. He's arguing that we should expect Prohm to get a win or two against a seed better than 12.

Nobody argued that we should go on a run beating Duke, Gonzaga, UNC, Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee and the 1968 Bruins to win a title, just that we should expect a coach to be able to accomplish a simple win against a seed better than a 12.

The thing is he’s earned high seeds which means he plays low seeds. It’s not his ******* fault two years ago there was an upset.
 
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Thanks for the update on seeding. Dodging the guy's idea, but nice update.


Not dodging anything. Would you be happier if they earned a 14 and won a game.

He’s lost to a 1 in the sweet 16 and a 4. And now an 11.

Did Fred ever beat a good seed? The answer is no. North Carolina a 6 was the best. He lost to a 7 and a 14.
 

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This is dumb. The point he was making wasn't that beating seeds so low is shameful. He's arguing that we should expect Prohm to get a win or two against a seed better than 12.

Nobody argued that we should go on a run beating Duke, Gonzaga, UNC, Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee and the 1968 Bruins to win a title, just that we should expect a coach to be able to accomplish a simple win against a seed better than a 12.
It was dumb, but that’s Chippewa’s caricature.
 
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