*** Official Kansas State VS #20 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

HoustonClone

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This was kind of the start of conference play I envisioned though bc of bringing 4 guys back so late. It takes time to not only get the players to get but for the guys to get their legs back under them.

Good perspective. We seem to forget that we are still living in that transition with LW, Lard, Young, etc...I had hoped it would be over by now, but it's not.
 
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What does KSU pay Weber to do? And for how long have they been paying him?

Other kids are on scholarship too. The other coaching staff are professionals too. Have some class and gain some perspective.

KSU was ready to fire Webber up until Wednesday night and this afternoon. I'm just not sure when this becomes an issue for some of you. Going 8-10 or 9-9 in the conference with this roster not only means we vastly underperformed but we also miss the NCAA Tournament.
 

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I appreciate your take on Prohm, as opposed to the "fire Prohm" rants. I happen to agree with the tactician take, and I'm hopeful it will improve.

Yeah I think he is a good coach but he obviously has areas where isn’t great. One thing i think he does well though is he usually gets the team to continually improve so they are playing their best late in the season.
 
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Go blow it out your a$$ troll boy. You have clearly hated Prohm from the very beginning and made up your mind to never even give him a fair chance. Do not deny that: I am smarter than you and my memory is better.

Of course I'm not happy with the game today you dumbsh!t. Never should have even been in a position to lose. But even good teams will sometimes lose games they have no business losing, whether it's missed free throws, crappy officials, or missed shots at the end. Look at Virginia last year in the tournament (and look how well they've recovered from that). Last time I checked North Carolina was getting spanked on their own floor by an unranked Louisville team.

I am done with you and done giving you second chances to pull your head out of your a$$. Time and time and time again you've shown yourself to be a bigger fan of one man than you are of the team or program. I would rather be confined to reading the HawkReport.com message board for eternity than ever read another post from you ever again.

Prohm sucks, why didn't he call a timeout so we could setup a play? Solid rant but I honestly don't care what you think of me.
 
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KSU was ready to fire Webber up until Wednesday night and this afternoon. I'm just not sure when this becomes an issue for some of you. Going 8-10 or 9-9 in the conference with this roster not only means we vastly underperformed but we also miss the NCAA Tournament.
They won’t miss at 9-9.
 

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Team got hot VS Kansas and thought they have arrived. Outside of that game they haven't done ****. VS any team with a heartbeat they got out played. This team is soft mentally and physically. It's a real shame bc there is a lot of talent.

The best thing about young talent is they become older talent with experience and battle scars.
 
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This was kind of the start of conference play I envisioned though bc of bringing 4 guys back so late. It takes time to not only get the players to get but for the guys to get their legs back under them.

It's only getting worse from here, have you seen the three road games we have this month? Losses are going to pile up quickly.
 

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Wrong - I have never been on the hype train with this team. Yes, they played great against Kansas, but they have been uninspired the last two games. No killer mentality, too much hero ball, a PG who would rather pass open a wide open three to take a dribble and shoot off the bounce. A guard returning from injury trying way too hard to force things that aren't there, and not understanding why your best guys aren't on the floor at the end of the game.

Funny thing is Kansas went on the road and won on Wednesday to a solid TCU team, and we can't beat an average at best Baylor team, or K-State team at home.
All of those deficiencies were there all year... just against weak non big 12 competition.. if you weren’t on the hype train the loss would be a shoulder shrug. I saw this outcome, the starting line up is low energy unless they hit a three.. a Conditt block will put more fire in their belly’s then anything Jacobson has to offer the team.
 
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Justify no rim protector in as Brown had enough of an opening to make sure his form was correct on that last shot. He squared up 2 feet from the rim.

Prohm just said that he should have left George Conditt in to guard the rim when Barry Brown scored the winning bucket...Sorry too late coach that train has already left the station.....
 

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Prohm continues to be a bottom half coach in this conference. He can get the dudes but Is maybe the worst in the conference with strategy. Doesnt seem to understand momentum (rotations), how to take advantage of mismatches, or draw up out of bounds plays. “Give the ball to X and have X make a play” isn’t a winning strategy.

I've made this post the prior three years with as many negative reactions as you have positive today. You were one of the extreme few who has always agreed.
 
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It's only getting worse from here, have you seen the three road games we have this month? Losses are going to pile up quickly.

They could pile up quickly, that's possible. I posted this after Baylor, but I've heard it said that anxiety is experiencing failure in advance. I'm going to choose to not be anxious. Disappointed, yes. Anxious and throwing down on Prohm and the team, NO.
 
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It's only getting worse from here, have you seen the three road games we have this month? Losses are going to pile up quickly.

If true, then it REALLY sucks to be you - or your dog, children or wife/husband/partner/dungeons and dragons friends.
 

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I don’t know how anyone can watch the end of that game and blame it on Prohm. Missed FTs, missed open shots to clinch the game, bad drive defense. What did you want Prohm to do??

If this game happened in vacuum, it would be understandable to write it off as a flukey game for the players, but this is the 4th straight season of watching a mentally-soft team **** the bed at the end of close games. It's getting a little tiresome.
 
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