KU HC David Beaty has been fired
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You think they’re firing him because he lost to ISU?
It's clueless to think they fired him because they lost to Iowa State. They fired him because Kansas put MAYBE 10,000 Kansas fans in the stands. And because they have one commit for 2019. And because he has shown very little improvement.
I doubt they can get a coach to do anything there, but they've got to be able to sell a tiny bit of hope.
University of Kansas needs to fire the athletic director, and get the president to overrule the AD and retain the coach. As divisive as Pollard has been in the past, I am a Pollard fan today. He has been AMAZING for ISU. Pollard has gotten his people in place in various sports, been patient with them, and given them the facilities and behind-the-scenes support to win. Kansas doesn't have a Pollard, and that is their problem.
Meanwhile at Youngstown State:
"Coach Polini, call on line 1."
"Coach Polini, call on line 1."
Iowa State still had better fan support at the end of the Walden era than Kansas does now. We have always had great fan support really. We still averaged in the 35K-40K fans in a stadium that held 45K at that time.
Kansas is Averaging Less than 15K, in a stadium that holds over 50K.
Iowa State has always had one of the most loyal fan bases in the country. That has and is what makes us unique and great.
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I see your point, but I can see the reason that he has been fired too. Their problem is that this is going to be a 4-5 year rebuild, minimum. After the disastrous hires made previously, they almost had to pick a guy and stick with him. I think they are better than they have been, and have been moving slowly in the right direction. However, fans had run out of patience (for better or worse) and they had to make a move.
Agree with this and why I can't believe people thinking Beatty was going to get the job done. In year 3 last year they were horrible and not competitive at all. This year they are better but have one of the more experienced teams in the conference, are living off a TO margin they will not repeat, have nothing coming in for a recruiting class. Yet they still suck and are likely going to take a step back next year.
I’ll sum up my position like this. I don’t believe they are going to do any better, and small improvement is better than they will get.
More season tix sold with mew HC? Yes. More wins? No.
I agree totally. For all of his successes, Pollard is also fortunate to be at a place like ISU, where our fan support has been large and consistent even in hard times. All we need is hope. Perhaps that's what attracted Jamie to Ames?
Same thing people said about ISU with Mac and Rhoads, and they were clearly wrong. Success of Mason and Mangino suggest they are wrong about KU too. They pulled in some decent talent in past classes and weren't competitive at all. They graduate a lot of starters and have nothing Coming in.
I agree its probably at least a 4-5 year rebuild. A big thing there is recruiting, without which the rebuild is going to stall out. With Kansas's recruiting for 2019 looking as abysmal as it is, it seems like they can see that that rebuild is going to get tougher if talent isnt going to show up.
Of course there could be a bit of chicken and egg there- recruits think the coach will be fired so they don't commit.
I'm not sure KU is all that better this year. They beat TCU but that seems like more on TCU's end than KU's. They have 3 wins, which is the most in Beaty's tenure, but beyond TCU their only two other wins are to teams that are sitting at a combined 2-16 (Rutgers over Texas State and Central Michigan over Maine). Plus a loss to an FCS team is never going to sell well with fans, regardless of if that FCS team is better than average.
That butt fumble by TCU delayed the announcement by 1 week. Beaty was gone as soon as they hired Long.
They fired him because of ISU but not because they lost too us. They saw our quick rise and think it can be done there as well. The problem is we continued to put money in our facilities, stadium, and kept up the fan support during the lean years so when MC arrived all this program needed were wins on the field. They have some catching up to do.
3 years ago that game had two of the worse P5 teams playing in it. Now ISU is a top 20 team and KU still sucks. Problem is what CMC is doing at ISU, is hard to do and will be hard for other programs to do. The other problem is for KU their stadium sucks and their fans don't care. KU had their turn around coach 15 years ago, but he sucked as a person so he couldn't keep it going.
