Just asked Campbell about the noise....
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Total wind up stuff. This why I’m so sick of the “nut cup” stuff RP is making money on that bs line of thinking.
You had me at "this is really disrespectful." CMC came out swinging on this and now he's really intense about showing the world what ISU can be. This just amped up him, the team and the fans.
Are we talking about Kirk's here?? Herbie and Ferentz?? One thinks he knows what he is talking about and the other just chomps on his gum all the time.
I do find the whole thing disrespectful, including Randy's article. Don't tell us "just to enjoy the ride." That is so small minded. Like we are completely incapable of retaining a quality coach. Like it is impossible that someone may, you know, want to stay in Ames.
I get it, money talks. I also get the allure of wanting to coach at a prestigious school. However, just look anecdotally at how that works out for people. I'll bet you Mike Riley misses Oregon State. I'll bet you Charlie Strong wishes he'd had stayed at Louisville. People are already calling for Harbaugh's head. Willie Taggart is on the hot seat after a year and a half. Florida fans are about sick of Jim McElwain. Butch Jones is on the verge of being fired. Long-story-short, moving on to a new, high profile school rarely seems to work out.
It is not impossible to think that Campbell cannot be fairly compensated, like it here, enjoy the fruits of what he is building, etc. It's also not irresponsible for us as fans to believe he might stay. He may leave, and if he does, good for him. But it's so defeatist for us to be expected to just accept that no one wants to be here.
I get it, money talks. I also get the allure of wanting to coach at a prestigious school. However, just look anecdotally at how that works out for people. I'll bet you Mike Riley misses Oregon State. I'll bet you Charlie Strong wishes he'd had stayed at Louisville. People are already calling for Harbaugh's head. Willie Taggart is on the hot seat after a year and a half. Florida fans are about sick of Jim McElwain. Butch Jones is on the verge of being fired. Long-story-short, moving on to a new, high profile school rarely seems to work out.
It is not impossible to think that Campbell cannot be fairly compensated, like it here, enjoy the fruits of what he is building, etc. It's also not irresponsible for us as fans to believe he might stay. He may leave, and if he does, good for him. But it's so defeatist for us to be expected to just accept that no one wants to be here.
I am assuming everyone who is able and is worried about losing him at some point is already or will be joining the Cyclone Club and or the Gridiron club. We will be.
Here is my thought...I think CMC could be here quite a long time. He feels like he can build a winner (so far seems to be working) and sustain some success. I truly believe the job he will leave ISU for is Ohio St. If he's winning here and it is 6-7 years from now and Ohio St opens up I think ISU should be worried. Think of where he's from, that is all I am going to say.
Until then I am going to enjoy this as we have not been able to have teams that play sustained good football over a few games let alone a season. I am going to soak it up and love it.
Until then I am going to enjoy this as we have not been able to have teams that play sustained good football over a few games let alone a season. I am going to soak it up and love it.
People, people!! Let's wait to see how the season plays out. 6 games in and I feel like we are reliving the Paul Rhoads era again already. This is Iowa Freakin State!! Nut cups are always on the ready.
If the Cubs can win the Series..... Iowa State can win the conference championship. Is this our year??? Just trying not to get too excited yet....
If the Cubs can win the Series..... Iowa State can win the conference championship. Is this our year??? Just trying not to get too excited yet....
This is the big issue with me. The disrespect that is shown. It is possible that Campbell will leave, guess what, all ISU fans know that. That's why when a guy does well, we all start saying, "I hope we can keep him" For Christ's sake it's condescending when you have other people, who know nothing of the program outside of seeing a few highlights a year, come to tell us how it's all going to go down now.
"Enjoy the ride while you can." **** you! We'd love to enjoy the ride, but guess what, every time ISU starts to have a little success, we always have to get a handful of jackasses who have to come in and tell us not to get too excited because it will all be over soon. If you are just some random guy, go for it, we are easy to kick around. ISU is the football equivalent of Airplane jokes for comedians. It's easy and hacky to do. But when we are a football broadcaster of that status, be better than that. Have some respect for people who love their team because of a deep connection, not because they are always winning. Have some respect for the coach who's trying to recruit and more than anything, have some respect for those kids playing for CMC. With what they've done so far, they deserve better than to be told their coach is gone only 7 games into the season. How about a tweet telling them you respect them and what they've done, instead of insulting everyone with your "He Gone" tweet.
**** YOU HERBIE!
Exactly. And people act like it is impossible for historically lesser Power 5 schools to keep quality head coaches. It does happen (Fitzgerald at NW, Cutcliffe at Duke, Mullen at MSU, Synder at K-State back in the day, Briles at Baylor before he screwed that up, Wittingham at Utah).
I know you are making a joke but I don't expect him and really don't want him to say that he's never leaving. We are all adults here. If he wants to stay then he'll stay if he wants to go he'll go. I hope in the mean time that we get to the point we can keep the ball rolling of he leaves.Matt Campbell didn't exactly deny anything . . .
(Obligatory Jimlad)
We just changed our 18 year old sons name to Matt
CycloneErik
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Honestly, I've been saying all along that I think Ohio St is his dream job, and he won't leave ISU for anything much less than that. What a lot of the national reporters like Herbie don't get is all of the programs he's pimping Campbell out to aren't much better than a lateral move to ISU, other than they may have a marginally better history in football than ISU does. However, there are so many negatives to those schools - ISU has facilities that are just as good, if not better, than those programs, most of those programs don't have a fanbase that gives near unconditional support to both the coach and program as a whole like ISU, most of those programs have unrealistic expectations year in and year out, and, the real kicker, at other programs they would give Campbell just enough rope to hang himself and not nearly enough time to meet those unrealistic expectations. I mean, yes, ISU recently fired Rhoads - but that was after 5 years of decline with no hope that he was going to do what it takes to make it better (and Rhoads even said things that made it easy for us to judge that he was clueless, especially when it came to recruiting).
Ever since JP has been here he's made football a priority. The only problem is he hasn't seen a positive ROI on his investment in the program. When Campbell makes statements like this, sure, it's always possible he's full of crap, but it also makes you want to believe in him, even if we've been burned so many times in the past.
Well, if we're honest, they all have a much better history than we do, though that doesn't make them better jobs right now.
I don't have a feeling for what Campbell will do. 2 years seems pretty fast, but he's done quite a bit in 2 years.
I'll settle right now for enjoying the ride while thinking that Kirk and Randy really shouldn't be stirring this pot right now. We're having a great season, and everything should be about that, like Campbell said.
Well said.
Honestly, what advantages does TCU, or KSU, or Baylor, or Washington, or (as Chris Williams said on twitter) even Clemson have that are impossible at ISU?
Campbell may get offered $10M a year to take over a championship contender like OSU, and honestly he should go if that is offered to him. I'd have no hard feelings.
But Campbell is 38 years ago and committed to a "process" and a "program". If he's smart (and I think he is) he should know that he has a long career in front of him and he doesn't have to hit the big time right now.
I agree on OSU fully. The more realistic sooner opening that is interesting is Notre Dame. they have the history and "culture" he'd be looking for, and in the same geographic area. No idea if he leaves for ND, but I bet he'd listen.
I've got this thing figured out guys and gals.
Sam S. Willaman Head Coach ISU, Salem Ohio, left ISU for head coach at OSU in 1926.
Earle Bruce Head Coach ISU, Salem Ohio, left ISU for head coach at OSU in 1979.
That's 53 years.
The 53 year cycle has been established, thus ISU will lose their head coach to OSU in 2032. That's 15 years from now. Plenty of time to have a lot of fun. Not to worry.
Now when 2032 comes around we'll have to do something dramatic to try and break the 53 year cycle. But we can address that then.
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Maybe if we go 10-2 and tOSU loses out and goes 6-6 would they put us as a 30 point underdog in the same bowl game.
