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there's another shot somewhere that shows it says Oscar for Best Leading Actress.

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To quote my favorite person in Hollywood, Mark Wahlberg:

“A lot of celebrities did, do, and shouldn’t [talk politics],” he told the magazine, explaining that A-listers aren’t on the same playing field as the common voter. “They might buy your CD or watch your movie, but you don’t put food on their table. You don’t pay their bills. A lot of Hollywood is living in a bubble. They’re pretty out of touch with the common person, the everyday guy out there providing for their family.”


I find it not surprising that you are pissed because celebs have opinions. But if wahlburg has one you agree with, it's cool to listen to him.

For what it is worth, I've never heard a celeb tell me what to think. They've offered their opinions, much as you or I do. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it is a YOU problem if you take the celebs so seriously. Not a sign of an independent thinker.
 
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My problem with the Oscars is related, I just rarely like the movies Hollywood likes, so movies I have actually seen rarely win anything. So there is that underlying attitude that they know better than their audience what they should like. But my husband always wants to watch them. He's the one who drug me to LaLa Land. I usually like science fiction movies and books. So unlike the Academy, I prefer Star Wars to Annie Hall.

Still think Starship Troopers was disrespected.
 

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I find it not surprising that you are pissed because celebs have opinions. But if wahlburg has one you agree with, it's cool to listen to him.

For what it is worth, I've never heard a celeb tell me what to think. They've offered their opinions, much as you or I do. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it is a YOU problem if you take the celebs so seriously. Not a sign of an independent thinker.

Pissed? No. I find it annoying/obnoxious that people that live substantially different lives than the average person try and preach to us what we should be doing or thinking. Too many people in Hollywood over-value their opinions. Wahlberg's quote is spot on. I don't even understand how there's anything debate.
 

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Meh. I take back the "creative" reaction I gave you above. You just negated it.

I have a fragile ego so ouch, but this IS just an anonymous chatboard talking about mostly silly things which only matter for the few keystrokes it takes to opine. I will recover. We all will recover.
 

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Pissed? No. I find it annoying/obnoxious that people that live substantially different lives than the average person try and preach to us what we should be doing or thinking. Too many people in Hollywood over-value their opinions. Wahlberg's quote is spot on. I don't even understand how there's anything debate.


They are offering opinions just like you. Frankly, I think you are annoying and obnoxious and preaching to me what I should think. Frankly, I'd rather have Meryl Streep tell me what she thinks than you because Hollywood or not she shares my values more than you do.
 

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Pissed? No. I find it annoying/obnoxious that people that live substantially different lives than the average person try and preach to us what we should be doing or thinking. Too many people in Hollywood over-value their opinions. Wahlberg's quote is spot on. I don't even understand how there's anything debate.

Its tough when some ignorant people have a large soapbox with which to share their opinions when many brilliant anonymous folks don't. A poorly formed opinion delivered to millions of people trumps (no pun and not political) a rational discussion delivered to only a few.

I quit listening long ago.
 
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They are offering opinions just like you. Frankly, I think you are annoying and obnoxious and preaching to me what I should think. Frankly, I'd rather have Meryl Streep tell me what she thinks than you because Hollywood or not she shares my values more than you do.

Right. She, like the other talking heads in Hollywood, are pandering to people such as yourself. They're not talking bipartisanship. They're concerned about things they and the like minded care about. Thus, the obnoxiousness of it all.

And I'm not telling you what you can and cannot think. You think whatever. The point is that your audience is a few hundred people, at best. There's an issue in this country with people being obsessed with everything Hollywood. They live everyday to take in more worthless gossip. Those people are especially easily influenced in what to believe.
 

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Its tough when some ignorant people have a large soapbox with which to share their opinions when many brilliant anonymous folks don't. A poorly formed opinion delivered to millions of people trumps (no pun and not political) a rational discussion delivered to only a few.

I quit listening long ago.


And brilliant people are those we agree with, right?

I don't get why people get so worked up about celebrities stating opinions. It's like you think they change minds. It only changes the minds of weak people and only weak people are threatened by it.
 
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Been a rough 100 days, Grammy Mic issues, putting up the wrong picture for a person who passed away (lots of respect there :confused:), announcing the wrong best picture, probably other thngs I missed.

New Years Eve lip-synch thing. Mariah Carey? One of those divas anyway...
 

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Pissed? No. I find it annoying/obnoxious that people that live substantially different lives than the average person try and preach to us what we should be doing or thinking. Too many people in Hollywood over-value their opinions. Wahlberg's quote is spot on. I don't even understand how there's anything debate.

decries celebrities spouting their opinions as out of touch...touts a celebrity spouting his opinion as "spot on."

makes sense.


seems like you are just fine with celebrity opinions, provided you agree with them.
 

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As a child, I said and did hateful things. It only defines me to those that live in the past. No clue if Wahlberg or any of the funky bunch are racist ******* bigots but nobody except maybe the Menendez brothers should be defined by actions as a youth. Except of course for the bad stuff. Using the "n" word as a kid, picking on kids that were different, etc... sadly part of growing up and hopefully learning from.
 

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decries celebrities spouting their opinions as out of touch...touts a celebrity spouting his opinion as "spot on."

makes sense.


seems like you are just fine with celebrity opinions, provided you agree with them.

The point I'm making with a Hollywood actors comment is that he gets it. He doesn't act like his opinion trumps anyone else's because of his status. Have you ever seen him get on a stage like the Oscars and spout off his beliefs?
 

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The point I'm making with a Hollywood actors comment is that he gets it. He doesn't act like his opinion trumps anyone else's because of his status. Have you ever seen him get on a stage like the Oscars and spout off his beliefs?

“If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn’t have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, ‘OK, we’re going to land somewhere safely, don’t worry.’”

Yeah, he "gets it."

Ol' Marky Mark is just like us regular folks. Hollywood hasn't gone to his head at all...
 

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The point I'm making with a Hollywood actors comment is that he gets it. He doesn't act like his opinion trumps anyone else's because of his status. Have you ever seen him get on a stage like the Oscars and spout off his beliefs?


He spouted off his beliefs in that quote.

His beliefs matter. Mine matter. Yours matter. George Clooneys matter.

Again, I'm not threatened by a celeb that I disagree with. You, clearly, are.
 

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And brilliant people are those we agree with, right?

I don't get why people get so worked up about celebrities stating opinions. It's like you think they change minds. It only changes the minds of weak people and only weak people are threatened by it.

Like most opinions offered for free, it softens the blow when the celebrity (or anyone for that matter) prefaces with the opinion with "I think" rather than telling me I don't.
 

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I'm guessing he didn't look at the front. And he obviously noticed the problem when he opened it but didn't know what to do. He showed it to Faye and probably didn't mean for her to read it.

I'm going to have to admit and confess to some ageism here on this one.

When I saw that, IMO, Warren Beatty has not aged well and was seeming to have a hard time reading the envelope or struggling with the name, that he was simply having quite the senior moment (temporary dementia maybe), and that's why it ended up being such a fiasco. The irony is that I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being some twenty-something production assistant working for peanuts who made the mistake.

In the long run, it's a silly and embarrassing moment for the Academy and the Oscars that is meaningless in terms of its actual importance, but it's too bad that it will come to be the defining moment in what I thought was otherwise a very well done production with a good host and some good speeches. It's really a shame that no one is talking about Viola Davis's acceptance speech today; that was a timeless classic.
 
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