The question is, WHY do the Patriots continue to bend the rules and cheat?
Cheating is cheating. The "Would have Won Anyway" argument makes no difference. Brady is a great QB. So WHY cheat?
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The question is, WHY do the Patriots continue to bend the rules and cheat?
Cheating is cheating. The "Would have Won Anyway" argument makes no difference. Brady is a great QB. So WHY cheat?
If you don't know the answer to that question then I don't know what to tell you.
Pay the consequences for cheating. And for covering it up. Brady deserves what he got And the Patriots too. For those saying the penalty is too severe. Maybe this will stop them from cheating. Pretty obvious that the penalty was not severe enough last time to stop them from cheating again.
Judge Kyle throws the case back to New York and even appears to chastise the Union.
"Indeed, the Court sees little reason for this action to have been commenced in Minnesota at all," Judge Kyle wrote. "Brady plays for a team in Massachusetts; the Union is headquartered in Washington, D.C.; the NFL is headquartered in New York; the arbitration proceedings took place in New York; and the award was issued in New York."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...rt-sends-tom-brady-nflpa-lawsuit-to-manhattan
"Indeed, the Court sees little reason for this action to have been commenced in Minnesota at all," Judge Kyle wrote. "Brady plays for a team in Massachusetts; the Union is headquartered in Washington, D.C.; the NFL is headquartered in New York; the arbitration proceedings took place in New York; and the award was issued in New York."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...rt-sends-tom-brady-nflpa-lawsuit-to-manhattan
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I think it's important to separate Brady from the Patriots, though. Brady was not implicated in Spygate. His punishment for deflategate should not be compounded because of prior bad acts by the Pats. And if Goodell is taking into account Spygate when he determines Brady's punishment, I have a huge problem with that. The union would, too.
The team is a different story. If Spygate influenced Goodell's decision to take away two draft picks and fine the Pats for deflategate, that's his call.
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"The Court strongly suspects the Union filed in Minnesota because it has obtained favorable rulings from this Court in the past on behalf of its members," Judge Kyle wrote.
Yeah, when you read the judge break it down like that, it sounds really silly for the case to be heard in Minnesota.
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yeah, I guess with the number of NFL cases that Doty has heard, I'd never really considered why a Minnesota court would have jurisdiction. In the case of AP and the StarCaps players, the Vikings were involved, so it made sense, I suppose. But, with Brady, it seems odd that the union would file there, unless they were specifically trying to get a favorable judge. (which they were) With today's ruling though, the judge makes it sounds like that's kind of an underhanded tactic. I suppose it is.
You seem to be hoping that a judge will apply 'beyond a reasonable doubt' logic to this case. Nothing could be further from reality.
According to the CBA the NFL decides what is reasonable. And if the player and the union disagree then they are free to appeal that ruling... to the NFL. That is what the players and union AGREED to.
You think that a judge will overturn that. Doing so would set an INSANE precendence. Do you want every union contract subject to review by a federal judge? Because I am sure a company could find a nice Bush appointee who would agree with them that the provisions they agreed with an union are no longer valid.
This no longer has anything to do with the PSI of a bunch of damn footballs.
Are you lumping the NFLPU into the same category as all other unions? The NFLPU can only dream that was the case.
The parties don't waive the right to legal recourse. The appeal to the NFL is just mandated before anything can go to court and yes the actions of the NFL an be deemed in violation of the agreement. It is not some kind of crazy precedent at all.
Also with regard to venue. It's federal court so they can file in any district in federal court. They could go to Hawaii of they wanted. Judge/venue shopping commonly done in federal court
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So, the judge is encouraging both sides to work it out themselves, and tone down the rhetoric.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...-settle-differences-tom-brady-case-litigation
Now, watch the league very publicly offer to cut the suspension by 50%. Brady won't accept, of course.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...-settle-differences-tom-brady-case-litigation
Now, watch the league very publicly offer to cut the suspension by 50%. Brady won't accept, of course.
Brady would have to admit guilt or give something for a reduction. Without that, it will not happen. Brady was not cooperative in the investigation. That is why he was suspended for 4 games. Conduct detrimental to the league. His organization has cheated before and now he is involved in the cheating. Brady should not have cheated. He did not need to cheat. But he did. So he must be punished. Maybe the Patriots will learn their lesson.
Now that the NFL has proven its case and Brady has admitted he is guilty now we can get back to football stuff
