2 Seed in K.C.
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This is the bracket if Iowa State loses tonight:
Losing tonight is not in the ******. Oddly enough, the game start time sequences favor the 4 seed over the 2 seed. Having to beat WVU a 3rd time is maybe not exciting. But a day and half before playing Kansas, who is crawling across the finish line this year, would be huge. And then a 2 hour advantage over the lower bracket winner in the finals, could provide an edge for a team that likes to go up and down the floor. That was also part of the formula last year.
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This is the bracket if Iowa State wins tonight:
Gonna be an awesome tournament for fans.
The game tonight is difference between second or fourth seed and a probable better seed in NCAA.
I'm not sure how the 2 seed in the conference tournament is still in play. Assuming we win today, we'd be tied with OU at 12-6. Looking at Big 12 Tiebreaker rules in order:
1. Head to head: we split with them, so we're still tied.
2. Each teams' record against conference opponents, in order of standing: We both split with Kansas, so still tied. The next team is Baylor (because Baylor swept WVU even though both finished 11-7). OU split with Baylor but we were swept by Baylor. Therefore, OU is the 2 seed and we are the 3 seed.
So if we win we are the 3 seed, and if we lose Baylor gets the 3 seed and we are the 4 seed.
EDIT: I read the tiebreaker rules wrong. Because Baylor and WVU finished with the same record, we compare the pooled records against both teams. OU split with both (2-2) and we were swept by Baylor but swept WVU (2-2). So still tied there. The next team is Texas, who we both swept - still tied. The next team is OSU, who we both swept - still tied. The next team is KSU, who beat OU twice but split with us. Therefore ISU would get the two seed. So if we beat TCU we get the 2, if we lose we get the 4. No chance at the 3.
1. Head to head: we split with them, so we're still tied.
2. Each teams' record against conference opponents, in order of standing: We both split with Kansas, so still tied. The next team is Baylor (because Baylor swept WVU even though both finished 11-7). OU split with Baylor but we were swept by Baylor. Therefore, OU is the 2 seed and we are the 3 seed.
So if we win we are the 3 seed, and if we lose Baylor gets the 3 seed and we are the 4 seed.
EDIT: I read the tiebreaker rules wrong. Because Baylor and WVU finished with the same record, we compare the pooled records against both teams. OU split with both (2-2) and we were swept by Baylor but swept WVU (2-2). So still tied there. The next team is Texas, who we both swept - still tied. The next team is OSU, who we both swept - still tied. The next team is KSU, who beat OU twice but split with us. Therefore ISU would get the two seed. So if we beat TCU we get the 2, if we lose we get the 4. No chance at the 3.
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Technically, it's the combined record against OSU, Texas and KSU since they all tied for 6th. ISU was 5-1 against those teams, OU was 4-2.
No kidding. Assuming all goes according to chalk:
Thurs:
Baylor/WVa
KU/KSU
ISU/UT
OU/oSu
Friday:
Baylor/KU
ISU/OU
Champ:
KU/ISU (or KU/OU, or BU/ISU, or BU/OU)
Those all sound like some pretty awesome games to watch
Hope we take care of business. I want Baylor in the ship.
Get revenge on the 2 losses this year and would be able to scalp tix easily.
Get revenge on the 2 losses this year and would be able to scalp tix easily.
Would really like this to happen, but I just don't see it. Texas is in the land of bubbles right now and they need tourney wins to be more comfortable, they'll be fighting for their proverbial lives.
