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jsb said:
And he'd be older and stronger than a lot of the NBA guys he'd be playing against.
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Yeah this is actually a good point. I don't think anybody would be expecting DK to come in and be a superstar, but he could be a solid pro. The average age of an NBA player is 26 or 27 years old and has been for years. Many players are younger than him and I'm guessing many that would match up with him are not as strong, though some certainly are.

Thing is, people talk about DK's age. Fair - but by not taking him in the first round, nobody's expecting him to be a franchise player. Most NBA players are lucky if they're around for 4 or 5 years on one team. So what team in their right mind is taking any player in the 2nd round expecting them to be on their team for 5+ years? Probably none of them. They all know that half of these guys never even pan out.
 
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jsb said:
Yeah, Seth Davis rarely has anything good to say about Iowa State.

And that analysis of Kane is why so many NBA teams suck. Why not get a man who is 25 that can give you 5 solid years instead of a guy who is 19 and won't produce for 5 years and then might not produce anyway.

I didn't listen to Bill Simmons tonight, but he did have a good column today that basically said that the draft is a crap shoot and pretty worthless.

As far as Mel and DeAndre go, they don't need to look any further than Babb and DG.
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I think it's safer for job security to draft a guy who might develop into something eventually than to pick a guy who would be expected to contribute immediately.
 
marothisu said:
Oh shut up. This has nothing to do with Wiggins. When the **** did I say that he should be drafted above the likes of Embiid, Wiggins, etc? I didn't - so put down the pipe. I can understand Ejim, but I think the age thing is stupid. Beyond the age thing, give me one good reason why DeAndre Kane shouldn't have been drafted?

If you want to talk about stupid posts, you should look in the mirror genius.
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A questionable outside shot.
 
All you need to do is see this scouts analysis of Marcus Smart to understand the futility that is the NBA draft...

"Marcus Smart, 6-3 guard, Oklahoma State. "Love his toughness, his grit. I think he's the best point guard out there. His shooting isn't a big concern for me. That part will come, all he needs is reps. You're betting on the kid more than the skill set. All he's ever done in his life is win.""

Smart has a high ceiling, I agree, but for those reasons? The guy who went postal and attacked a fan? Lol'd.
 
Jambalaya said:
Plenty of 6'6/6'7" SF's drafted, which is confusing as to why Ejim sat this out.

The media here glorifying Devyn, yet there is no guarantee he'll make a team. But good for him. He really improved despite his leech biological father hanging around like a fungus for four years
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I highly doubt Roy Devyn makes the team. Highly doubt. He's not that good and very few guys in the second round make their teams. And Roy Devyn's attitude pre-draft was suspect to say the least. Roy Devyn is going to have to go to Orlando and act like he wants the job and that he will work to earn the job and I'm not sure Roy Devyn will do that.
 
digZ said:
All you need to do is see this scouts analysis of Marcus Smart to understand the futility that is the NBA draft...

"Marcus Smart, 6-3 guard, Oklahoma State. "Love his toughness, his grit. I think he's the best point guard out there. His shooting isn't a big concern for me. That part will come, all he needs is reps. You're betting on the kid more than the skill set. All he's ever done in his life is win.""

Smart has a high ceiling, I agree, but for those reasons? Lol'd.
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I don't have a huge problem with Smart. But refuse to lose? Oklahoma State hasn't been that great his 2 years. Last year they sucked for a big chunk of the year (and it wasn't just the time that Smart was out suspended). They didn't get far in the tournament.

He doesn't exactly refuse to lose.

Kansas had 2 lottery picks. Oklahoma State had a lottery pick and a 2nd round pick. Iowa State had no picks and finished the season ranked higher and got further in the NCAA.
 
michaelrr1 said:
A questionable outside shot.
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His outside shot is not amazing, but yet he still managed to shoot 39.8% from 3pt last year and greatly improved the shot under Hoiberg. I think it was apparent how much he improved it. In the beginning of the year it was shady but by the last 1/4 of the year it was getting pretty solid. I think he showed us that he's able to improve his shot in a fairly short period of time.

Whatever team gets Kane, assuming he makes a roster in the end, will be getting someone they can pay cheaper and still produce good numbers for a few years before he demands to be paid more.
 
I think people are just disappointed after all the respect and hype we got all year to not have it directly pan out via the draft. If anything, that just says more about us than we think. We had a great win streak to start the season off going undefeated non-con and taking down 2 top 10 teams before facing our first loss, we won the Big 12 tourney, and pushed hard even with a key injury to make the Sweet 16. All of this when some analysts pegged us to finish near the bottom of our conference. We did this all without any NBA draftees. That speaks volumes to the commitment of our players to push and develop into the best they can be, of our coaching staff to harness the most of our talent, and of our program to bring us back into the national spotlight.

Come on people, just because we didn't have 2 of our players drafted doesn't mean the respect isn't there. Hilton is in the Top 10 toughest arenas to play in, and we are Preseason Top 20 with several new players on the way in. No one is underestimating Iowa State basketball. I have no doubt with their work ethics that both Kane and Ejim have the potential to succeed in the NBA.
 
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Not sure why all the outrage in this thread other than maybe all those freaking out did not follow any NBA draft coverage prior to tonight. Marble was always going to be the first taken (if any were going to be drafted).
 
JHUNSY said:
Come on people, just because we didn't have 2 of our players drafted doesn't mean the success isn't there. .
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I'm pretty sure you're misinterpreting most peoples' reasons for being upset. It has nothing to do with whether we think ISU is a successful team or not.
 
HerkClone said:
A bunch of smart folks disagree with you. Obviously
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Huh? I was saying it's silly to say LaVine has 10x the potential and there's a good chance he's never as physical as Kane. Not sure how that means 'smart folks disagree'. I'm not sure there's a guard who has ever played the game that has 10x the potential of Kane, he'd average 50, 20 and 20.
 
I'm guessing most of the people complaining in this thread don't watch the NBA draft that often... Neither player was gonna go in the first round and going undrafted is a lot better than being drafted in the second round. I'll be surprised if Kane isn't on a roster next year but Ejim I think has overseas written all over him. Ejim is incredibly undersized and unless he finds a perfect fit he has pretty much now chance at the NBA.
 
digZ said:
All you need to do is see this scouts analysis of Marcus Smart to understand the futility that is the NBA draft...

"Marcus Smart, 6-3 guard, Oklahoma State. "Love his toughness, his grit. I think he's the best point guard out there. His shooting isn't a big concern for me. That part will come, all he needs is reps. You're betting on the kid more than the skill set. All he's ever done in his life is win.""
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That was true of him as a high school recruit…Oklahoma State is the most underachieving team in the nation the past two seasons.
 
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