**** daylight savings

Those same people have difficulty flying across time zones too. Probably have to take the bus.
Doesn't matter, the bus still crosses a line where the time jumps an hour. Apparently at that point there is a non-zero chance your heart explodes or something.
 
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Standard time is a July 1st sunrise of 4:19am here in Chicagoland. So starts getting light out about 3:45am. Yeah, that's much better than the horror of changing our clocks a couple times a year.....

I don't care if it's dark until 10am. Give me light later in the day, when we can use it.
 
Standard time is a July 1st sunrise of 4:19am here in Chicagoland. So starts getting light out about 3:45am. Yeah, that's much better than the horror of changing our clocks a couple times a year.....

I don't care if it's dark until 10am. Give me light later in the day, when we can use it.

People are pissed off enough in this chit town.

Let's at least have some sun as we're stuck in our homes 6+ months of the year.
 
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Standard time is a July 1st sunrise of 4:19am here in Chicagoland. So starts getting light out about 3:45am. Yeah, that's much better than the horror of changing our clocks a couple times a year.....

I don't care if it's dark until 10am. Give me light later in the day, when we can use it.
Does sound crazy. Guess people would adapt and do what cave persons did. Go to bed at 8p, wake up at 4a and play 9 holes of golf before work. :cool:
 
I'm in the "pick one and stick with it" camp.

I'm sure there could be pros/cons to choosing either as the permanent. I vaguely recall the '70s DST "experiment," but was too young to know directly how it was received. In retrospect, from what I've read and heard, it had high support when it went into effect, then dwindled a lot within several months.

I'm not even against a clock change, but I think DST ought to be like mid-May to mid-December (or even early June to early January).
 
Doesn't matter, the bus still crosses a line where the time jumps an hour. Apparently at that point there is a non-zero chance your heart explodes or something.
Some people take their complaints about the time change overboard. But I feel like the people complaining about the people complaining about the time change to be more over the top/annoying.

And I'm not sure the arguments about travelling across time zones or staying up later on the weekends, etc. are the winning arguments that people think they are.

Sure, I often stay up more than an hour later on Friday or Saturday nights. It's also the weekend and I don't have kids. Of course I'm not going to complain; I can sleep in the next day. Same thing when crossing a time zone. If I'm doing that, I'm almost always on vacation so I can just sleep in. That's completely different than having a time change and needing to work the next day. And if I do stay up late and have to work the next day, my sleep does suffer.
I'm in the "pick one and stick with it" camp.

I'm sure there could be pros/cons to choosing either as the permanent. I vaguely recall the '70s DST "experiment," but was too young to know directly how it was received. In retrospect, from what I've read and heard, it had high support when it went into effect, then dwindled a lot within several months.

I'm not even against a clock change, but I think DST ought to be like mid-May to mid-December (or even early June to early January).
I'd prefer permanent DST, but if we're going to keep switching, I'd prefer that they make the switch Saturday morning at 2:00 a.m. as opposed to Sunday morning at 2:00 a.m. It only takes basically a day to make the switch, so have that day be Sunday and people will be more likely to be back to normal on Monday.
 
I'm in the "pick one and stick with it" camp.

I'm sure there could be pros/cons to choosing either as the permanent. I vaguely recall the '70s DST "experiment," but was too young to know directly how it was received. In retrospect, from what I've read and heard, it had high support when it went into effect, then dwindled a lot within several months.

I'm not even against a clock change, but I think DST ought to be like mid-May to mid-December (or even early June to early January).
What is the point if we are going to have DST on the shortest day of the year (~20-22 DEC)?
 

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