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When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 70 8.0%

  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 0.8%

  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 161 18.3%

  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 189 21.5%

  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 452 51.4%
  • Total voters
    879
bos said:
I've spent a little bit of the last hour just using copilot to plan out trips from my home to various places my family lives throughout the country. Only using super chargers (with a model y). Then I have it compare typical gas costs with my 2014 Pilot and the savings is a big chunk. It does add some extra time to my trips, especially the further out, the savings alone were pretty solid. Factored in some overnights at halfway points and whatnot for giggles. Our family trip to minnesota every year would still remain one stop for lunch so the drive time doesnt change at all there. Not quite ready to pull the trigger on an EV yet, but have been having fun with running scenarios to bolster my decision. Still need to sit in one to see if I even like it.
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Test driving is the key.

The only thing that sometimes trips people up is one-pedal driving. When you first use it, it can be a little tricky. It's not like an accelerator where you just 100% let off all at once and coast. It's a gradual thing that takes a couple of drives to get used to, and then you'll love having to never use a brake.
 
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MeowingCows said:
That leads me to think it's a bad idea. Their generator is a motor that was not designed or optimized to function as a generator long-term.

Maybe "bad idea" isn't the right word, ultimately it will likely work fine, but I guess it doesn't seem like optimal design to me. More like lazier attempt to deliver something that might work.
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Designing a motor for variable HP and torque across a range has to be different than for just turning a magnet. At least, I would assume it is. Maybe there's some MechE's around here somewhere that can enlighten us.
 
dmclone said:
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I found a new view, which gives me MPGe. A few notes:

1. Ignore the max speed, that was just for a second while I passed.
2. This is my wife's car, who works from home, so it doesn't get a lot of miles. Although lately I've been driving downtown to work.
3. You can tell from the graph, you lose a lot of efficiency when you drive fast in cold weather. On my one trip, I averaged 80 mph, and it was 20-30 degrees outside, so my range dropped to 211 miles. So for my trip to Mason City (see map), which is 270 miles round trip, I had to stop in Dows (right off I-35) and charge for 25 minutes. If I was doing this in the middle of summer, and lowered it down to 70 or so, I'd probably stop for 10 minutes or not at all.

Right now I'm paying 11 cents for electricity, but hopefully by summer I'll be charging at night for 6 cents.
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You pay more for electricity in the winter than the summer? Or you upgrading your charger?
 
FLYINGCYCLONE said:
You pay more for electricity in the winter than the summer? Or you upgrading your charger?
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I'm moving to a Time of Use charging that I just recently realized that Mid American offers. You must commit for a year. Basically, it's always cheaper except from 1-6pm Mon-Fri, when it's 20 cents.

MidAmerican has divided the 24 hours in a weekday into three different time periods: on-peak, off-peak and all other hours. The most expensive time to use energy is during on-peak hours (1-6 p.m., Monday-Friday), especially during summer billing periods (June-September). Energy consumed in the summer during the time periods of off-peak (10 p.m.-8 a.m.) and all other hours will cost much less. In the non-summer months, the time periods of on-peak and all other hours are priced the same, with a slightly lower price for off-peak use.

Summer (June–September)​


  • On-peak (1–6 PM): ~18–22¢/kWh
  • All other hours: ~9–12¢/kWh
  • Off-peak (10 PM–8 AM): ~6–8¢/kWh

This is where TOU can hurt or help a lot depending on usage timing.



Non-summer (October–May)​


  • On-peak & mid: roughly same price (~8–10¢/kWh)
  • Off-peak: slightly lower (~6–8¢/kWh)
Mid American still needs to come out and install something
 
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dmclone said:
Test driving is the key.

The only thing that sometimes trips people up is one-pedal driving. When you first use it, it can be a little tricky. It's not like an accelerator where you just 100% let off all at once and coast. It's a gradual thing that takes a couple of drives to get used to, and then you'll love having to never use a brake.
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On a micro scale I have experienced this with our segway scooters. I’ve gotten used to that, so it doesn’t seem like a barrier too much. I need to get to council bluffs and take one out. Actually pretty excited about the idea. Their financing right now is damn near zero, certainly enticing.
 
MeowingCows said:
That leads me to think it's a bad idea. Their generator is a motor that was not designed or optimized to function as a generator long-term.

Maybe "bad idea" isn't the right word, ultimately it will likely work fine, but I guess it doesn't seem like optimal design to me. More like lazier attempt to deliver something that might work.
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It might be used more like the engine in trains it seems, as in it will produce the power for the motors themselves as well as recharging the battery at times.
 
MeowingCows said:
That leads me to think it's a bad idea. Their generator is a motor that was not designed or optimized to function as a generator long-term.

Maybe "bad idea" isn't the right word, ultimately it will likely work fine, but I guess it doesn't seem like optimal design to me. More like lazier attempt to deliver something that might work.
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Technically that's true, but all it really takes to make it ideal for a generator is tuning. (different camshafts and other tuning) Lots of generator motors' cores are vehicle engines that are retuned for that purpose (again mostly camshaft suited for the ideal RPM range(s).

Not saying its a good idea one way or another, that's beyond my pay grade.
 
bos said:
I've spent a little bit of the last hour just using copilot to plan out trips from my home to various places my family lives throughout the country. Only using super chargers (with a model y). Then I have it compare typical gas costs with my 2014 Pilot and the savings is a big chunk. It does add some extra time to my trips, especially the further out, the savings alone were pretty solid. Factored in some overnights at halfway points and whatnot for giggles. Our family trip to minnesota every year would still remain one stop for lunch so the drive time doesnt change at all there. Not quite ready to pull the trigger on an EV yet, but have been having fun with running scenarios to bolster my decision. Still need to sit in one to see if I even like it.
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I need some opinions. Will probably be buying another vehicle this summer assuming the economy doesn't go down the toilet. If it does I may just buy a Schwinn. Anyway, getting a new driver in the household, so will be doing some vehicle shuffling. Was thinking of getting myself a Maverick Hybrid. I would like to wait until full electric options are available, which sounds like are coming, but my wife does not want both our vehicles to be BEV (she drives a Subaru Solterra). I live in Ankeny. Would it be worth the extra money and reduced mileage for the AWD or just opt for the FWD? My wife insists we need AWD but I am not so sure. Would it be cheaper just to buy a set of good snow tires for the winter and stick with the FWD? If I go with the FWD I can find some used ones. I am open to opinions.
 
Anybody have recommendations for good installers for level 2 charger in Des Moines area (Johnston)?

My home already has 240 service and breakers in the garage. I think it might even have a 240 outlet that the prior owner used for power tools or something. I'm hoping maybe the outlet or at least having the breakers in the garage make things easier/cheaper?

I don't really need it right now (we currently just have a Phev that we plug into the 120), but have an EV on the radar in the next year or two and would like to get a L2 charger installed by the end of June to qualify for the tax credit that's expiring if possible.
 
JH4ISU said:
Anybody have recommendations for good installers for level 2 charger in Des Moines area (Johnston)?

My home already has 240 service and breakers in the garage. I think it might even have a 240 outlet that the prior owner used for power tools or something. I'm hoping maybe the outlet or at least having the breakers in the garage make things easier/cheaper?

I don't really need it right now (we currently just have a Phev that we plug into the 120), but have an EV on the radar in the next year or two and would like to get a L2 charger installed by the end of June to qualify for the tax credit that's expiring if possible.
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BigTurk said:
I need some opinions. Will probably be buying another vehicle this summer assuming the economy doesn't go down the toilet. If it does I may just buy a Schwinn. Anyway, getting a new driver in the household, so will be doing some vehicle shuffling. Was thinking of getting myself a Maverick Hybrid. I would like to wait until full electric options are available, which sounds like are coming, but my wife does not want both our vehicles to be BEV (she drives a Subaru Solterra). I live in Ankeny. Would it be worth the extra money and reduced mileage for the AWD or just opt for the FWD? My wife insists we need AWD but I am not so sure. Would it be cheaper just to buy a set of good snow tires for the winter and stick with the FWD? If I go with the FWD I can find some used ones. I am open to opinions.
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I'm currently looking at the Hybrid AWD Mav as a potential next car. If you've already got the AWD option with the Subaru, probably don't need two. Could always just use the Subaru if snow is bad, etc.
 
BigTurk said:
I need some opinions. Will probably be buying another vehicle this summer assuming the economy doesn't go down the toilet. If it does I may just buy a Schwinn. Anyway, getting a new driver in the household, so will be doing some vehicle shuffling. Was thinking of getting myself a Maverick Hybrid. I would like to wait until full electric options are available, which sounds like are coming, but my wife does not want both our vehicles to be BEV (she drives a Subaru Solterra). I live in Ankeny. Would it be worth the extra money and reduced mileage for the AWD or just opt for the FWD? My wife insists we need AWD but I am not so sure. Would it be cheaper just to buy a set of good snow tires for the winter and stick with the FWD? If I go with the FWD I can find some used ones. I am open to opinions.
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Frankly, AWD on a small pickup, you may as well sandbag it either way. Minimal weight over the rear wheels that AWD asks for help with.

For the most part, FWD + good tires/winter tires >>>> AWD itself.
 
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BigTurk said:
I need some opinions. Will probably be buying another vehicle this summer assuming the economy doesn't go down the toilet. If it does I may just buy a Schwinn. Anyway, getting a new driver in the household, so will be doing some vehicle shuffling. Was thinking of getting myself a Maverick Hybrid. I would like to wait until full electric options are available, which sounds like are coming, but my wife does not want both our vehicles to be BEV (she drives a Subaru Solterra). I live in Ankeny. Would it be worth the extra money and reduced mileage for the AWD or just opt for the FWD? My wife insists we need AWD but I am not so sure. Would it be cheaper just to buy a set of good snow tires for the winter and stick with the FWD? If I go with the FWD I can find some used ones. I am open to opinions.
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A FWD with snow times will give you better traction in most winter situations than having AWD with all-season tires. I have had both situations (Subarus with all-seasons and FWD vehicles I put snow times on) and the only thing the AWD does better is accelerating and that is marginal. Braking and general stability were better with the snow times.

Either are perfectly safe for winter driving where you have any business being on the roadways. The only downside to the winter tires is needing to store the set you don't have on your vehicle and getting them changed out twice a year. I have enough space in my garage and changed them myself so it wasn't a big deal for me, but for others that would be a deterrent. A benefit is the snow tires are more economical. Unless you own your vehicles for a short time they take up some miles you put on your all-season/summer set so the cost of buying the extra set is almost like pre-buying your next set of tires and you you get better fuel economy in the FWD vehicle and have less components that need maintained or repaired.
 
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twojman said:
As I've been saying, US is way behind the curve when it comes to EVs. We, as a country, are going to be in big trouble because of this.

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Two weeks ago I was in London and my wife commented how quiet the city is compared to previous trips and compared to places like New York. Looked around and there were so many EV cars, vans, scooters, etc. on the streets it was great to see.
 
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