*** Official #2 IOWA STATE vs Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***
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I don't know what TJ says to the other coaches during postgame handshakes, but it appeared Self wanted little to none of it.
The sooner we come to terms with this team being a good team and not a great team the more enjoyable the rest of this season will be.
I guess I didn't see it that way
Cyclonepride
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Lol, they're going to end up 16-13 right? Man, I remember why I don't visit game threads
As some others have pointed out hopefully this loss serves as an attention getter. Not only for the players but also the coaches.
The initial part of the 2nd half the Clones played great and we got it down to 11 points and then went cold. Could have gotten it down to 8 if Heise makes an open 3. He misses and then then KU hits a 3 and we went cold for 4 minutes. When the offense was clicking we weren't relying on jump shots. Somehow the staff needs to diversify our halfcourt offense so that it's not reliant on Jefferson backing his way down.
And on defense, I feel there are teams and times we should stop double teaming. Just play straight up man defense. Our aggressiveness can be taken advantage of by solid passing teams and athletic teams that can drive to the bucket.
Confident we'll be OK. The reality is we weren't going to go undefeated. And Allen Fieldhouse is a tough place to play. And KU's back was to the wall a bit, they didn't want to start the Big12 schedule 1-3 - motivation is huge.
Hope Toure is healthy as he didn't play last part of 2nd half. But have to give Batemon some props for his effort on D and shot making on O.
The initial part of the 2nd half the Clones played great and we got it down to 11 points and then went cold. Could have gotten it down to 8 if Heise makes an open 3. He misses and then then KU hits a 3 and we went cold for 4 minutes. When the offense was clicking we weren't relying on jump shots. Somehow the staff needs to diversify our halfcourt offense so that it's not reliant on Jefferson backing his way down.
And on defense, I feel there are teams and times we should stop double teaming. Just play straight up man defense. Our aggressiveness can be taken advantage of by solid passing teams and athletic teams that can drive to the bucket.
Confident we'll be OK. The reality is we weren't going to go undefeated. And Allen Fieldhouse is a tough place to play. And KU's back was to the wall a bit, they didn't want to start the Big12 schedule 1-3 - motivation is huge.
Hope Toure is healthy as he didn't play last part of 2nd half. But have to give Batemon some props for his effort on D and shot making on O.
Toure game log. 1st game of the season at the top pretty easy to see why the offense has felt worse since Purdue he has struggled in most games since then and is a non-factor on offense.
I am not used to you being here post game. You usually bow out after it is obvious the Cyclones will win.
I will add, we can’t make layups…and Jefferson needs to give up his pt guard dream…it’s not happening. If he can’t hold on to the ball or make a f’n bunny, he needs to hold the clipboard for TJ.
I’d start practice tomorrow with full court, full speed, right & left hand layup drills until 30% of them puked.
I’d start practice tomorrow with full court, full speed, right & left hand layup drills until 30% of them puked.
Many of those shots were just that kind of night shots. Bouncing off the rim/backboard more than twice so many times is incredibly unlikely. We still played like ****, but Say La V.
When they play their A game like they did tonight they can beat anyone, we had a D+, C- effort at best, way to many turnovers, while not getting KU to turn the ball over, we did not shoot the ball very well, and we allowed them to speed us up and we started chucking up 3 points shots instead of running the offense. Would have liked for us to slow it down, be deliberate after the first few minutes and work on running the offense, forcing KU to guard us. But we tried to outshoot the mistakes and it buried us. We had a nice comeback at halftime, but then KU went on another spurt and it was over.
I don't think he is the problem. Jeff has been rough last 2 games. Tonight 4-14 with 5 turnovers
ISU success is dependent on Jeff, if he plays bad results won't be there
I wish we would run some screens or set plays to get Milan some looks early in games. We all know how deadly he gets when he sees the ball go in. Wonder if TJ has thought of that?
I get ****** during games too but I try and keep perspective. We were 2-22 6 years ago. Up until tonight we were undefeated and #2 in the country. We got punked tonight and that sucks. But many good teams have gone into that building against that coach and gotten whooped. It happens. Now it becomes about what you learn and how you react.
I just hope we can keep guys healthy. This seems to be about the point in the year guys start dropping and you can see a few guys looking a bit dinged up. Gotta stay healthy.
I just hope we can keep guys healthy. This seems to be about the point in the year guys start dropping and you can see a few guys looking a bit dinged up. Gotta stay healthy.
Yep, they are focusing on football . . . . . you know, state of Indiana where football is life.
This is true. Arizona and Houston are the contenders in the Big 12. We should be happy with wherever we fall after that. Guessing 4th or 5th
