I don’t want to be in a conference with any program that thinks it’s too good for the Pop Tarts Bowl.
Does the Big 12 want Notre Dame?
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We all understand CFB is the dumbest sport in existence. BYU 22-3 last two seasons (pre-B12 championship that "doesn't matter") with this year 11-1 only loss to Tech. That shouldn't need perception. ESPN gamed their metrics and BYU still earned it.
This is a very delayed response, but the question should be "does
Notre Dame want the big 12?"
Notre Dame want the big 12?"
ESPN FPI somehow has 6-6 Penn State ranked #17 in the country. 5-7 Auburn is #26 and 4-8 South Carolina is #32.
I don’t disagree with you, just the perception of the big12 after adding so many G5 teams isn’t good so those wins get discounted. It’s stupid and why the non con is so important as well as the playoffs. Hoping TT can beat Oregon and get some good momentum for you guys
“So many G5 teams”? Houston had been a P5 until Texas disbanded the SWC. By your standards, then the perception of the Big 10 must be a big problem after adding Rutgers.
This is my thought as well. They’re running out of Power conferences to have that sweet scheduling deal. I’m not sure if the Big 10 or SEC would allow them to be a partial member. It’d either be all in or not, and I don’t think neither conference really needs Notre Dame as much as Notre Dame would need them. But the consolidation of conferences has made it harder to Notre Dame to be independent and keeping all their revenue while leaching off their conference partner (ACC).
Depending on things fold with the ACC, the Big 12 would probably allow them to continue with their sweet scheduling deal.
Notre Dame makes more from their NBC deal than the rest of us do from all of our media partners.....the Big Ten has targeted them and if they don't join them, why would they join the Big 12?
Yeah and then they were a G5 team for 25 years, plus cinci, plus UCF, etc.
Rutgers came from the big east but yeah they add nothing to the conferences perception
teams work up from conference to conference and that is how it works for all leagues. Not to mention, houston was an very good G5 team, as well as ucf, who went undefeated and was the unofficial nation champion, and cinci, who made the cfb playoffs not too long ago. I would rather have those teams than iowa, minnesota, rutgers, or even nebraska at this point. That is my take, and this is not based on record, as ucf is not good this year, but rather team precedent in recent years
No. Rutgers detracted from the Big 10 perception, a lot worse than UCF and CInci. Rutgers had no chance of getting a playoff bid from the Big East and they certainly are a terrible look for the Big 10. I would say, Rutgers hurt the Big 10 big time in perception.
And the Big 12 was forced to do that after the traitors left. Big 10 was not forced to add Rutgers. At least the Big 12 added football schools. Cinci was ranked during the year. Has Rutgers ever been in the Big 10? Rutgers might have been a football school 125 years ago, but I don’t even know if they have an identity for any sport. Maybe Rugby.
I think we're mostly agreeing but by "so many" you mean 4 out of 16. One of those 4 was Cinci who made a 4 team CFP. Another is BYU who needs no explanation. Houston and UCF not so much, though Houston had a couple good years this past decade. You go 11-0 and lose 1 game to the #4 team in the country in a P4 conference and its robbery regardless of perception. We need 5 SEC teams though.
There is more parody now with NIL and transfers. Last year the top 4 seeds all lost their first game. I say go to 16. No byes. Maybe even 24 with first round byes. That might actually allow Iowa and Michigan St to have a shot to get in.
Yeah man Rutgers is pretty awful at football, zero argument from me here
16 would suck because it would just invalidate the regular season for a chunk of teams each year with how everything is currently set.
Yep totally agree that there can be more parity. Many top teams are still too but don’t have the depth due to the portal and NIL t just have a bench of 5 stars
Also sparty got in when it was just a 4 team playoff. Got boatraced that year wish it was a 4 team playoff the year before because that team was way better
ND is not coming to the B12, they have something like 24 sports in the ACC, we do not even offer that many sports as a conference. Whether they like it or not, they are stuck in the ACC, because they would never go to the SEC and the B10 would never allow them to remain independent and park their other sports there.
