No Bowl Game — Iowa State Turns Down Bowl Bid

I'm having a hard time understanding the decision not to play in a bowl game.

I recall JP saying we were going to play in a bowl game during his Friday press conference. But then players just decided not to play and that's that? Who is running the show here?

Is their justification really plausible? "Members of the athletics administrative team and the previous coaching staff met with the players this morning and had a robust discussion about the team's ability to play in a post season bowl game. After that discussion, the players voted not to play in a post-season game due to lack of health players to safely practice and play."

Um what? Didn't the team just compete against Oklahoma State just over a week ago? And wouldn't a post season game include several weeks to get injured players healthy? This justification is hard to believe.

Furthermore, what are members of the previous coaching staff doing in this conversation about playing or not playing? That could be a conflict of interest if they are angling to get hired at Penn State. Could they be nudging ISU best players not to play in the bowl game and avoid injury in exchange for those players transferring to Penn State (and its bigger NIL) when the portal re-opens in early January?

This decision also costs the team an extra month of practice, which is typically a time when younger players get a lot of reps and helps jump start the following spring practice. Why give that up?

Then there's the financial impact: Missing out on the bowl game payout on top of $500K fine. Maybe ISU Athletics has plenty of money sitting around, but why take that hit at all?

Finally, who is representing the interests of the thousands of Cyclone faithful who have given to the We Will Collective in the effort to retain players? A lot of us have donated to the collective and expect the players we pay to play. Most of us just can't go tell our bosses we don't feel like doing our jobs anymore and expect to get paid.

Somebody please tell me what I am missing.
 
I’m fine with not playing. They’re a team without a coach. (Rogers isn’t going to coach these guys. It’s not his team.) And based on the press release it sounds like a lot of the players are planning to transfer and don’t want play. I don’t see a lot of benefit in having the third string get their brains beat in a meaningless bowl game. With the new playoff, bowl games need to go away. They are glorified exhibition games in which half the best players don’t play.
 
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Most of these bowl matchups look uninteresting I would bet to most casual fans. Maybe it's just because of our situation, but I have to think a lot of these games will be poorly attended and with low viewership. I sure don't see many that I would bother to watch.
 
I'm having a hard time understanding the decision not to play in a bowl game.

I recall JP saying we were going to play in a bowl game during his Friday press conference. But then players just decided not to play and that's that? Who is running the show here?

Is their justification really plausible? "Members of the athletics administrative team and the previous coaching staff met with the players this morning and had a robust discussion about the team's ability to play in a post season bowl game. After that discussion, the players voted not to play in a post-season game due to lack of health players to safely practice and play."

Um what? Didn't the team just compete against Oklahoma State just over a week ago? And wouldn't a post season game include several weeks to get injured players healthy? This justification is hard to believe.

Furthermore, what are members of the previous coaching staff doing in this conversation about playing or not playing? That could be a conflict of interest if they are angling to get hired at Penn State. Could they be nudging ISU best players not to play in the bowl game and avoid injury in exchange for those players transferring to Penn State (and its bigger NIL) when the portal re-opens in early January?

This decision also costs the team an extra month of practice, which is typically a time when younger players get a lot of reps and helps jump start the following spring practice. Why give that up?

Then there's the financial impact: Missing out on the bowl game payout on top of $500K fine. Maybe ISU Athletics has plenty of money sitting around, but why take that hit at all?

Finally, who is representing the interests of the thousands of Cyclone faithful who have given to the We Will Collective in the effort to retain players? A lot of us have donated to the collective and expect the players we pay to play. Most of us just can't go tell our bosses we don't feel like doing our jobs anymore and expect to get paid.

Somebody please tell me what I am missing.
Who do you think was going to coach in a bowl game if not members of the previous staff. They would name an interim coach from the previous staff for the bowl game. They explained what that would entail and decided it wasn’t something they wanted to do. Seems pretty straightforward.
 
Most of these bowl matchups look uninteresting I would bet to most casual fans. Maybe it's just because of our situation, but I have to think a lot of these games will be poorly attended and with low viewership. I sure don't see many that I would bother to watch.
They’ve always been uninteresting for awhile now
 
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While it's obviously disappointing that ISU isn't playing in a bowl, I think the bowl game structure will probably need to change over the next five years. It feels like we'll probably end up with either a CFB Playoff equivalent of the NIT or some kind of NIL showcase games where players get paid to play.

That being said, brutal $2.5 million dollar week for the athletic department in the form of the bowl game fine and the buyout. The deficit looms large and people's faith in JP seems pretty low at the moment.
 
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While it's obviously disappointing that ISU isn't playing in a bowl, I think the bowl game structure will probably need to change over the next five years. It feels like we'll probably end up with either a CFB Playoff equivalent of the NIT or some kind of NIL showcase games where players get paid to play.

That being said, brutal $2.5 million dollar week for the athletic department in the form of the bowl game fine and the buyout. The deficit looms large and people's faith in JP seems pretty low at the moment.
The bowls need to pay NIL money to players and their payouts probably needs to significantly increase.
 
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They’ve always been uninteresting for awhile now
Problem is, if they all go away, everyone loses out. Bowls pay money, so schools lose, Bowl venues/locations lose out on business and money from bowl guests. Fans lose out on bowl games to go to during holidays. Players lose out on having bowl game as a reward.

I agree the system is broken and I dont know what the fix is at this point. But bowls going away all together is not a good thing.

Maybe more of the bowls need to be incorporated into the playoff if they are going to continue expanding it. Meaning Alamo, Holiday etc become 1st/2nd round games etc. I dont really know at this point, everything is such a mess, and those with the control only see dollar signs, and that means basically a 2 conference playoff that consolidates as much of the power and money in those 2 leagues.
 
If we want me make the necessary changes in college sports, you need to stop giving money and stop watching. Won't be renewing my season tickets.

The problem with this line of thinking at Iowa State is that you'll only be hurting Iowa State.

Now if fans at big SEC/Big 10 schools did this, things would change overall. But we all know that isn't happening.
 
I like Mouser, but the history of promoting the popular assistant isn’t always a smashing success. Good short term fix, but can go off the rails once the program is”theirs.”
Larry Coker at UM is the best example.
Great point. Look how long it took Oklahoma to get back on track after promoting Veneables.

It always pisses me off when Hassel throws shade at Pollard for not hiring TJ earlier. Highly doubtful TJ could have built program back that quickly without the extra head coaching experience.

Promoting Mouser would have been WAY WAY easier for Jamie and he knows that. He obviously thought Rogers was a safer bet long term because he had to know there would be short term pain.