WVU "injuries"

[VeloClone]

#2 ran back onto the field 2 plays later in the same series. He was not attended to on the sidelines by any staff and never sat down.

#22 sprinted back onto the field after 3 plays in the same series. He, too was not attended to by any staff on the sidelines and never sat down.

#30 injured a shoulder and was taken off the field and attended to by trainers. He did not return.

We were behind the visitor's bench observing this "phenomena".

Everyone keep in mind that #2 was the guy who took 2 minutes from the time he was helped up and started for the sidelines to actually get off the field. The way he was walking we should have been fearing that his leg was going to fall off right there on the field. All the while Holgerson and his defense were enjoying a free time out after another ISU big play.

 

[J-Diggy]

IMO the worst one was after Lazard's 60 yard catch. Everyone gets up and lines up, corner covering the slot looks to WVU bench and suddenly "remembers" he is hurt and takes a knee. Total BS.

Holgerson is a classless puke. Up 30 with 4 minutes to go he throws a 50 yard pass. Tells you all you need to know about him.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

How is that any different than Cotton-Moya getting hurt after he got burnt for a TD and then coming back in the next series?

WVU already scored a TD so there was no incentive to slow the game down.

 

[ClonesFTW]

Anyone have a clip of #22 going down in the end zone?

 

[isufbcurt]

WVU already scored a TD so there was no incentive to slow the game down.

Honestly there isn't an incentive to slow down the game when ISU is on offense because we very very very rarely run jet tempo.

A lot of times the players down for injury are more scared they are hurt than actually hurt. For example a OLmen may get rolled up on and it scares them into thinking they hurt their knee so they have the trainers look at it before they decide to walkoff/keep playing and really injury it. See Patrick Scoggins during the WV game.

 

[HardcoreClone]

I'm talking about their WR #2, Ka'Raun White. He took a long time to get off the field and never returned. Not sure why he would fake an injury after he just burned our defensive back.

 

[1100011CS]

How is that any different than Cotton-Moya getting hurt after he got burnt for a TD and then coming back in the next series?

That was injured pride. There's no point to fake an injury if they scored already.

 

[isufbcurt]

That was injured pride. There's no point to fake an injury if they scored already.

Ok what about Jaustin Thomas then? Gets hurt, trainers help him off the field 3 plays later he's back in.

 

[SCNCY]

Honestly there isn't an incentive to slow down the game when ISU is on offense because we very very very rarely run jet tempo.

A lot of times the players down for injury are more scared they are hurt than actually hurt. For example a OLmen may get rolled up on and it scares them into thinking they hurt their knee so they have the trainers look at it before they decide to walkoff/keep playing and really injury it. See Patrick Scoggins during the WV game.

To add to this comment, when I played soccer years ago, during my prime (high school) there would be times where I would roll my ankle a little bit. It would be tender for a little bit, but after "walking it off" I was fine to run on it again. I assume the same thing happens to some of these players. The may pull/twist/roll something just very slightly, but after a short amount of time, are fine again.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Ok what about Jaustin Thomas then? Gets hurt, trainers help him off the field 3 plays later he's back in.

Every once in a while is one thing. When it gets obvious that the defense is trying to slow down the offense, then it's ridiculous.


I don't think they can really do anything to prevent it, because player safety is much more important now, but it's definitely bush league.

 

[MntneerLegion]

Honestly there isn't an incentive to slow down the game when ISU is on offense because we very very very rarely run jet tempo.

A lot of times the players down for injury are more scared they are hurt than actually hurt. For example a OLmen may get rolled up on and it scares them into thinking they hurt their knee so they have the trainers look at it before they decide to walkoff/keep playing and really injury it. See Patrick Scoggins during the WV game.

Excellent point. "Stingers" are another perfect example. You're convinced your arm is falling off but after a couple minutes you're good to go.

Based on this thread we should get rid of trainers...let the opposing fans diagnose injuries from the stands.

 

[jkclone]

Ok what about Jaustin Thomas then? Gets hurt, trainers help him off the field 3 plays later he's back in.

Look normally it doesn't bother me because you are right they are legitimately needing help. West Virginia was obviously faking. #2 after Lazards long catch and #22 after Jones long catch were extremely obvious.

 

[MntneerLegion]

WVU already scored a TD so there was no incentive to slow the game down.

So when we apparently do it, Holgorsen is classless and a drunk. When you all do it, it's dismissed. It's your board so whatever, but it tells me all I need to know.

At this rate I think we found our rival...whole lotta bad blood over here.

 

[VeloClone]

Injuries happen. What happened just before the injury, what is happening while the player is getting looked at, how long the player takes to get off the field, how quickly players who walked off the field like they would never play again get back on the field and the frequency of injuries can add up to something smelling fishy. This game made a strong case for it. If it was easy to see for sure there would be stronger rules against fake injuries. If this was a Snyder team, I don't think anyone would be questioning the injuries.

 

[VeloClone]

So when we apparently do it, Holgorsen is classless and a drunk. When you all do it, it's dismissed. It's your board so whatever, but it tells me all I need to know.

At this rate I think we found our rival...whole lotta bad blood over here.

No, he is saying that the injury wasn't fishy because there was clearly no incentive to slow the game down. Your reading comprehension is terrible.

 

[VeloClone]

Holgorsen is classless.

Agreed.

 

[CY88CE11]

So when we apparently do it, Holgorsen is classless and a drunk. When you all do it, it's dismissed. It's your board so whatever, but it tells me all I need to know.

At this rate I think we found our rival...whole lotta bad blood over here.

If you can't follow the logic, that's on you. Comparing Cotton-Moya's injury to any of your defense's injuries is a poor comparison because you can't make the case that Cotton-Moya was trying to slow down the offense's pace, since they had already scored.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

So when we apparently do it, Holgorsen is classless and a drunk. When you all do it, it's dismissed. It's your board so whatever, but it tells me all I need to know.

At this rate I think we found our rival...whole lotta bad blood over here.

If Cotton-Moya was faking an injury, it didn't affect the game in any way, other than delaying the extra point for a minute or two. When your guys faked an injury, it was after big plays when Iowa State was in the red zone and threatening to score, thus stopping the momentum and giving your defenders a break. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

 

[VeloClone]

The sad thing is Holgerson's team is supposed to be a top 20 team yet he feels the need to resort to bush league tactics to beat a team in the basement of the conference.

 

[dafarmer]

Rules could state that if teams huddle with coaches of injured player, time out is used. Other team can huddle with coaches.