Why all the doom and gloom?

[exCYtable]

First, I view myself as someone who rides the middle on this topic.

Is it the end of the world that we lost? No. Life goes on, still a fun and great season so far.

Is it ok to be discouraged and frustrated with how we lost and who we lost to with what was on the line? Yes.

The definition of fanatic is this: a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal.

This is a fan message board. Almost as bad as the doom and gloomers are the self righteous who think they're better than everyone else because it doesn't bother them.

I say, to each their own.

 

[cydnote]

I find it amusing (if not amazing) the number of posters on here that will go back to their cubicles on Monday morning and draw their buck and a half per hour when it's obvious they could be raking in millions being a D1 coach, especially after the fact.

 

[acoustimac]

The doom and gloom comes from hanging by your fingernails for weeks and finally slipping off. We are seeing the same team week in and week out and the cracks are starting to widen as other teams figure out how to exploit our various weaknesses (i.e. line can't block against pressure) AND ISU doing itself no favors. It's been eight weeks of the same thing with no signs of improvement. Next week will tell us a great deal. If we come out like a fire is lit under our asses then hooo rahhh! But if the same team appears and the results are the same...we might start hearing the sound of a toilet flushing on a once promising season.

 

[CoachHines3]

I’m not in doom and gloom mode. I knew a loss was coming, possibly 2.

But I’m still set on losing to this tech team at home was inexcusable.

 

[CoachHines3]

I find it amusing (if not amazing) the number of posters on here that will go back to their cubicles on Monday morning and draw their buck and a half per hour when it's obvious they could be raking in millions being a D1 coach, especially after the fact.

im a coach I kno ball

 

[Cloned4Life]

After attending yesterday's game, I had a few thoughts about all the pessimism I've been reading on the forums and in the Twitter-sphere.
Firstly, I am as disappointed in yesterday's outcome as the next guy. ISU missed a ton of opportunities on both sides of the ball that could have swung the game into a comfortable win for our guys. However, hats off to TTU on turning our missed chances into their own momentum builders and they played to win (have to give credit where credit is due). I hate looking for moral victories in a loss, but we were in no way outclassed on the field, something we've all seen a lot of through the years. I know that social media reactions are not indicative of Cyclone Nation as a whole, but I really just don't understand where some of the fan base is coming from saying that this team is washed up and the season is over.

It also stings with the first CFP rankings coming out this week and the national media doing us no favors. Taking the loss this week also leaves the door to the B12 CCG more open than I would like, but we can all thank Houston for doing us a solid in this department.

Despite all this, this ISU squad is still in the driver's seat for both the CCG and a potential CFP spot. We don't need to rely on help from our conference mates (might need a double check on a potential tiebreaker with Colorado).

If you would have told me ISU was playing meaningful football games in November with national attention and postseason implications, I would sign up for that in a heartbeat. This team is still damn good and will make the adjustments needed to finish out strong.

However, if the sky is indeed falling and we sputter out the rest of the year, feel free to bookmark this and send me an "I told you so."

Let me know your thoughts!

Define “doom and gloom”?

What is an acceptable level of frustration or venting… on a free crazy fanatic website?

 

[3TrueFans]

The doom and gloom comes from hanging by your fingernails for weeks and finally slipping off. We are seeing the same team week in and week out and the cracks are starting to widen as other teams figure out how to exploit our various weaknesses (i.e. line can't block against pressure) AND ISU doing itself no favors. It's been eight weeks of the same thing with no signs of improvement. Next week will tell us a great deal. If we come out like a fire is lit under our asses then hooo rahhh! But if the same team appears and the results are the same...we might start hearing the sound of a toilet flushing on a once promising season.

*football team loses one game by one point*

Some guy on the Internet: “the cracks are getting wider!”

 

[CloneLawman]

Yesterday is gone. The only thing today that is important is KU. Next week it will be something else….

One other thing, this team has won seven games in a row, I will believe they cannot win four games in a row only when some other team beats them.

As always...


We should ALL be able to agree on that.

 

[3TrueFans]

How did you guys ever survive the many years when we were actually dog ****?

 

[Cyhig]

After attending yesterday's game, I had a few thoughts about all the pessimism I've been reading on the forums and in the Twitter-sphere.
Firstly, I am as disappointed in yesterday's outcome as the next guy. ISU missed a ton of opportunities on both sides of the ball that could have swung the game into a comfortable win for our guys. However, hats off to TTU on turning our missed chances into their own momentum builders and they played to win (have to give credit where credit is due). I hate looking for moral victories in a loss, but we were in no way outclassed on the field, something we've all seen a lot of through the years. I know that social media reactions are not indicative of Cyclone Nation as a whole, but I really just don't understand where some of the fan base is coming from saying that this team is washed up and the season is over.

It also stings with the first CFP rankings coming out this week and the national media doing us no favors. Taking the loss this week also leaves the door to the B12 CCG more open than I would like, but we can all thank Houston for doing us a solid in this department.

Despite all this, this ISU squad is still in the driver's seat for both the CCG and a potential CFP spot. We don't need to rely on help from our conference mates (might need a double check on a potential tiebreaker with Colorado).

If you would have told me ISU was playing meaningful football games in November with national attention and postseason implications, I would sign up for that in a heartbeat. This team is still damn good and will make the adjustments needed to finish out strong.

However, if the sky is indeed falling and we sputter out the rest of the year, feel free to bookmark this and send me an "I told you so."

Let me know your thoughts!

Agree 100%. I also feel better knowing we didn’t lose because we were outplayed/had less talent. We lost because of self inflicted mistakes, mistakes the team typically hasn’t made all year

It would be far more doom and gloom if we simply got dominated. We can correct our own mistakes; we can’t really correct simply being outplayed

 

[CloneLawman]

im a coach I kno ball

And his mom knows balls.

 

[CyMissile]

And here comes the flood of folks demanding that fans accept—and somehow be excited by—mediocrity.

I don't think there are a flood of fans excited or accepting mediocrity. Yesterday was frustrating and a big missed opportunity (heck, I'm still irritated by the outcome!). I have high expectations of this program, especially since CMC has been steering the ship for a number of years now and a loss like this falls short of said expectations.

What I have a tough time coming around on is the idea that this season is over/coaches are horrible/we can't compete/etc. when there are still 4 games to be played. 100% agree that adjustments and big improvements need to be made from players and the staff, but why sell on the team now? Is there really that little faith out there?

 

[Cloned4Life]

Also—I don’t think it’s appropriate to look at the current season status through the lens of pre-season expectations or historical results. If you start 9-0 and finish 9-3 and miss the CFP, it’s a bad season and you have squandered an opportunity.
Expectations are fluid.

Go cyclones, nobody will stop cheering, but have to be perfect from here on out. These are the reasons for doom and gloom.

The bold here is so perfect. Cyclone fans are the best in the business about clinging to meaningless preseason expectations when something bad happens. Your example is perfect too. Starting 9-0 and losing 3 in a row would factually really suck and it would absolutely be valid for fans to be disappointed in seeing a team/program squander an opportunity.

Did we squander an opportunity yesterday? Yeah. Squandered an opportunity to go 8-0 and continue to pursue the once in a lifetime dream. Would have really jumped in the polls. Would have been nice to NOT stumble when so many other teams stumbled. Is it the end of the season? Hell no. Is it super frustrating for a day? Yep.

 

[OWLCITYCYFAN]

The doom and gloom comes from hanging by your fingernails for weeks and finally slipping off. We are seeing the same team week in and week out and the cracks are starting to widen as other teams figure out how to exploit our various weaknesses (i.e. line can't block against pressure) AND ISU doing itself no favors. It's been eight weeks of the same thing with no signs of improvement. Next week will tell us a great deal. If we come out like a fire is lit under our asses then hooo rahhh! But if the same team appears and the results are the same...we might start hearing the sound of a toilet flushing on a once promising season.

Acoustimac in football threads vs WBB threads...

Step away from the keyboard for a couple days, at least until after the ISU / Chicago St. WBB game - that should lift your spirits...

 

[Aclone]

Losing to the worst pass defense in the country... and not really ever trying to exploit that weakness is indeed a cause for concern IMO. It is unexplainable. You do NOT try to stubbornly flex your run game muscles against a horrible secondary. That is horrible coaching.... period.

Apparently you didn’t notice, but we did try. And when we did, the pass protection broke down, and Tech often had better coverage than advertised.

And Rocco still threw for 299 yards.

"Spinning" is a great name for you!

You of all people should know better than to go for ad hominem attacks based on a username, dude.

Just take that last e off your own. See what I mean?

 

[bozclone]

I decided before the season that I was going to live in the present and not look to far ahead with this team because I have been a Cyclone for 50+ years and I know that is an emotional trap. I was disappointed last night, but I’m looking forward to Saturday.

 

[Didley]

I think realistically we were never going to go 12-0 with all of the injuries we’ve been dealing with, and with so much parody in the Big12. Its a disappointing loss, but Tech played well enough to win and we did not. Move on. The goal of being Big 12 champion is still within reach. No doom and gloom here. Lets start a new win streak and finish this thing.

 

[CyMissile]

Define “doom and gloom”?

What is an acceptable level of frustration or venting… on a free crazy fanatic website?

I'm here for any and all of it; everyone has a right to say what they want! I'm offering my own perspective and trying to see where fans that don't share my opinions are coming from.

A lot of the "doom and gloom" posts I saw where right at the end of the game/post-game, so I understand people were a little hot about the end result.

 

[Aclone]

Almost as bad as the doom and gloomers are the self righteous who think they're better than everyone else because it doesn't bother them.

I’m trying to imagine someone so self righteous that they think others weren’t bothered by losing yesterday.

No one has said that. What they’re saying is that they aren’t jumping off of cliffs, screaming for coaches to be fired, or moaning that the season is over.

Or, according to some corners of the internet, issuing death threats.

Me? I was depressed last night about the loss. Picked up a good book so I didn’t think about it. Woke up today, and life goes on. The conference championship game and even the Playoffs are both still within reach.

Am I concerned that there are some not so obvious injury issues—as in, other than linebacker? Sure. Are there issues to work on? Sure.

But y’know what? I have zero control over what happens on the field, let alone the rest of the year. So I’ll just take a deep breath, and cope with whatever happens as best as I can.

 

[CyMissile]

I’m trying to imagine someone so self righteous that they think others weren’t bothered by losing yesterday.

No one has said that. What they’re saying is that they aren’t jumping off of cliffs, screaming for coaches to be fired, or moaning that the season is over.

Or, according to some corners of the internet, issuing death threats.

Me? I was depressed last night about the loss. Picked up a good book so I didn’t think about it. Woke up today, and life goes on. The conference championship game and even the Playoffs are both still within reach.

Am I concerned that there are some not so obvious injury issues—as in, other than linebacker? Sure. Are there issues to work on? Sure.

But y’know what? I have zero control over what happens on the field, let alone the rest of the year. So I’ll just take a deep breath, and cope with whatever happens as best as I can.

100% agree on this