Why all the doom and gloom?

clonedude

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See, I look at the fact that we dropped back to pass more than 40 times and threw for almost 300 yards on a windy day with some rain as pretty good. If anything, I’m a little disappointed our running game didn’t do a little better. But from a numbers standpoint, we were pretty much where we needed to be. Gotta get points a couple times when we didn’t. Not getting a touchdown when we were right at their goal line was tough. So was having a pick overturned by a hands to the face penalty (when we would have taken over with really good field position). That’s your two touchdown margin right there in my opinion.
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Being happy after a loss is a "loser mentality". I guarantee you there aren't any people okay with last night's performance in the football building today... and there shouldn't be.

I hate the thinking... "I'm thrilled being 7-1!". Especially when that 1 loss is to an average team that you were favored at home by 2 TDs and you gave the game away. Nobody should be fine with that. Just my worthless two going t
Never said I was happy but I am not going to stew on it. Nothing I can do about it.
 

clonedude

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The Rocco QB draw on 3rd and 10 is concerning before missing a 50 yard FG. First time this season it felt like we played not to lose.
It was a QB sweep really... not a draw... but your point still stands. It was an indefensible play call.
 
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Not doom and gloom, it's mostly that there are some concerning systematic issues with the offense that need to be addressed. If we don't fix it, we won't be headed to Dallas.
 
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Defense has looked very sus the last two weeks. We are repeatedly getting torched by receivers but the QBs we’ve faced have been too terrible to take advantage . Absolutely zero pass rush and we have to be one of the worst teams in DI when it comes to QB pressure. A team with a good QB like Colorado would absolutely light us up.
 
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Yesterday was a bummer and a missed opportunity, but I am big picture okay.

Sitting at 7-1 and literally each remaining victory is historically significant for ISU in one way or the other.

Let's Go State!
 

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When we win we’re great, everyone’s happy, as soon as we lose we’re terrible, not prepared, didn’t want it enough, not playing to win, coaches suck, Rocco sucks. A tale as old as time.

The Campellball people are surprisingly silent for the 7-0 start, but they were just waiting until something went wrong.
 

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The loss yesterday puts this team in such better perspective. We aren’t great, and now seems like we haven’t been most of the year. Other teams have figured us out, we were lucky to be 7-0, coaches looked bad yesterday. Easy to look past that stuff when squeaking out wins, brings the bad more into focus with a loss. Lost a great opportunity to take command of the big 12 alongside BYU, and to show up in the top 7ish of the CFP rankings.

If you believe like I have all year… that the big 12 is a one bid league… then not much was lost yesterday in regards to making the CFP, I won’t argue that. Our margin for error however went from razor thin to none, and from a national narrative perspective the big 12 is officially toast. Its BYU and Deon now.

The only result that matters in the current landscape of college football is making the CFP. 10-2 and an Alamo bowl with 1/2 of the team sitting out is a waste of time. To adjust Matt Campbell’s quote for now and the future: “BS programs care about non CFP bowl games”

Also—I don’t think it’s appropriate to look at the current season status through the lens of pre-season expectations or historical results. If you start 9-0 and finish 9-3 and miss the CFP, it’s a bad season and you have squandered an opportunity.
Expectations are fluid.

Go cyclones, nobody will stop cheering, but have to be perfect from here on out. These are the reasons for doom and gloom.
 

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The loss yesterday puts this team in such better perspective. We aren’t great, and now seems like we haven’t been most of the year. Other teams have figured us out, we were lucky to be 7-0, coaches looked bad yesterday. Easy to look past that stuff when squeaking out wins, brings the bad more into focus with a loss. Lost a great opportunity to take command of the big 12 alongside BYU, and to show up in the top 7ish of the CFP rankings.

If you believe like I have all year… that the big 12 is a one bid league… then not much was lost yesterday in regards to making the CFP, I won’t argue that. Our margin for error however went from razor thin to none, and from a national narrative perspective the big 12 is officially toast. Its BYU and Deon now.

The only result that matters in the current landscape of college football is making the CFP. 10-2 and an Alamo bowl with 1/2 of the team sitting out is a waste of time. To adjust Matt Campbell’s quote for now and the future: “BS programs care about non CFP bowl games”

Also—I don’t think it’s appropriate to look at the current season status through the lens of pre-season expectations or historical results. If you start 9-0 and finish 9-3 and miss the CFP, it’s a bad season and you have squandered an opportunity.
Expectations are fluid.

Go cyclones, nobody will stop cheering, but have to be perfect from here on out. These are the reasons for doom and gloom.

If you are only going to care about the playoffs, then there’s no reason to be an Iowa State fan. Or any fan. Why bother? I think Iowa State can be a top 4 program in this league, but making the playoffs every year will not happen.

So why would anyone bother doing this?
 

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See, I look at the fact that we dropped back to pass more than 40 times and threw for almost 300 yards on a windy day with some rain as pretty good. If anything, I’m a little disappointed our running game didn’t do a little better. But from a numbers standpoint, we were pretty much where we needed to be. Gotta get points a couple times when we didn’t. Not getting a touchdown when we were right at their goal line was tough. So was having a pick overturned by a hands to the face penalty (when we would have taken over with really good field position). That’s your two touchdown margin right there in my opinion.
The issue is we cannot seem to fathom that sometimes less is more wrt blockers. And we have seen this movie before, going back years w CMC.

Contrast:
bringing in 3 TE to force the ball down a hallway, trying squeeze 16 guys through a sausage grinder.

What Tech did to score the winning TD - by putting 4 guys way left to create space on the right, so there was less men and more space for Brooks. Was there even a QB there?

Those old Briles teams at Baylor ran the ball super well because they spread you out so much, there was space. That whole concept is MIA in this offense, and idk why. Esp w guys like Jackson and Sama available.
 

clonedude

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The issue is we cannot seem to fathom that sometimes less is more wrt blockers. And we have seen this movie before, going back years w CMC.

Contrast:
bringing in 3 TE to force the ball down a hallway, trying squeeze 16 guys through a sausage grinder.

What Tech did to score the winning TD - by putting 4 guys way left to create space on the right, so there was less men and more space for Brooks. Was there even a QB there?

Those old Briles teams at Baylor ran the ball super well because they spread you out so much, there was space. That whole concept is MIA in this offense, and idk why. Esp w guys like Jackson and Sama available.
This is a great post! Bringing in 3 TE's only brings like 10 defenders into the box and mucks everything up in the middle.
TT's TD at the end was brilliant. They put all 4 WR's wide out to the left and not a single person to the right... snapped it directly to Brooks and just let him walk around the wide open right side basically.

We run into a completely stacked box instead.
 

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Imagine if the 2 minute timeout didn't exist. We'd be a 5-3 team and hoping we could find our way to 8 wins. Even in the new Big XII we are rarely going to have a schedule as advantageous as this season. We aren't going to get an opportunity like this very often and we basically used up what little margin for error we had last night.
 

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Because we had a chance to do something that has never been done in the history of Iowa State. Would have set us up to play for a conference title and possibly more. And instead, in true Iowa State fashion we blew it to a team that is nowhere near as good as ISU. The margin for error is now zero for these last 4 games.

Not only that, but they had 2 weeks to prepare, and got completely outcoached by a staff that is not good. Tech fans want their OC fired.
 
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I’m happy with our record at this point in the season but I’m frustrated because I don’t think we’re actually as good as the record would suggest. I don’t expect to make the playoffs and I’m actually relieved because I feel we would get drubbed on national tv.
 

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And we even got some help from Houston last night... and shot ourselves in the face. Uugh.
 

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I’m not doom and gloom because I didn’t think we’d be 7-1. But to lose as a two touchdown favorite at home (after almost losing as a two touchdown favorite at home last game) coming off a bye with us being as healthy has we’ve been all year is certainly very disappointing.

Huge missed opportunity is how I feel this morning.
Agreed 100% here. Plus KSU losing was even more a pile on.