Very Early 2021 Top 25 Expectations

Preseason rankings serve to create hype and draw eyeballs to networks hosting the games; we’ll be 10-15th based on a few bigger brands getting the nod.

While that is an effect of preseason polls, it's not that premeditated. It's mostly just media members filling out a form after 15 minutes of research.
 
Even pollsters aren’t dumb enough to rate a team with a brand new head coach (let alone missing their QB) very high in that first year. Too much transition.

(I think)

People that think Texas will be ranked ahead of us need to take off their tinfoil hat. It isn't happening.

AP people know coach, QB, and where the teams ended last year. ISU will finish about 10 spots higher this year, return a known QB, a First Team AA RB and a coach widely considered top 5 in the country. Texas has none of those things.

Are people really using Penn State or Michigan's preseason ranking as some great proof of horrible preseason rankings? Of course there is bias, but they won 11 and 9 games last year and finished 9th and 19th. Ranking them in the preseason was completely reasonable. Having them be 2 and 3 spots higher than they finished is not out of line. And Nebraska did not start ranked this year. Yes, they were preseason 24th or something like that in 2019, but after a terrible start they finished 2018 4-2 with one of those a 5 pt loss to Ohio State. Frost was also just removed from winning that Natty at UCF, so I don't think it was totally crazy to rank them preseason 24 in 2019. Hindsight is 20/20.
 
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I'm guessing anywhere between 8th and 11th. Depends a lot on how many SEC and Big Ten teams get in top 10 -- I'm guessing voters will wedge 5 in there between those leagues, plus Clemson and Notre Dame, and perhaps the top Pac-12 team. So that, along with OU, the room gets crowded.
 
I think the key is that, while we know we’ll be losing some key people, it’s in positions that AP voters don’t care about. They don’t care about tight end, for example. They’ll see we have Purdy back, and Hall back, and Hutch back, and Rose back, and Young back, and that’ll be good enough to them.
 
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You forget how the AP poll works, there is a requirement that at least 8 Big 10 teams have to be on the list, with 3 or 4 in the top 10.

I will not be surprised if the AP ranks Iowa above us.
The preseason poll this year before seasons got paused had 6/14 (43%) Big 10 teams and 4/10 Big 12 teams.
 
People that think Texas will be ranked ahead of us need to take off their tinfoil hat. It isn't happening.


Looking at where Texas started and finished in the AP Poll from 2010-2019:

2010 Started:5 Finished:Unranked
2011 Started:24 Finished:Unranked
2012 Started:15 Finished:19
2013 Started:15 Finished:Unranked
2014 Started:Unranked Finished:Unranked
2015 Started:Unranked Finished:Unranked
2016 Started:11 Finished:Unranked
2017 Started:23 Finished:Unranked
2018 Started:23 Finished:9
2019 Started:10 Finished:25

Texas finished ranked, with a bowl win, and a perceived upgrade at the head coaching spot. It won't shock me that AP voters vote Texas higher than us. They're almost always overrated.
 
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You forget how the AP poll works, there is a requirement that at least 8 Big 10 teams have to be on the list, with 3 or 4 in the top 10.

I will not be surprised if the AP ranks Iowa above us.

Michigan always has to start the season ranked in the top 15. Regardless how good they were the previous year
 
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Looking at where Texas started and finished in the AP Poll from 2010-2019:

2010 Started:5 Finished:Unranked
2011 Started:24 Finished:Unranked
2012 Started:15 Finished:19
2013 Started:15 Finished:Unranked
2014 Started:Unranked Finished:Unranked
2015 Started:Unranked Finished:Unranked
2016 Started:11 Finished:Unranked
2017 Started:23 Finished:Unranked
2018 Started:23 Finished:9
2019 Started:10 Finished:25

Texas finished ranked, with a bowl win, and a perceived upgrade at the head coaching spot. It won't shock me that AP voters vote Texas higher than us. They're almost always overrated.

This year they started 14th and will end up 16th-17th prob. Disagree that Sarkisian is broadly viewed as an upgrade, nor should he be. And they lose the only player most AP voters could name on UTs roster.

UT is overrated always. But ISU will be picked to finish 2nd in the league and ranked ahead of Texas preseason.

Bold move to hitch Texas’ wagon to Sark. Maybe it will work, but just seems like a less accomplished Tom Herman with more baggage.
 
This year they started 14th and will end up 16th-17th prob. Disagree that Sarkisian is broadly viewed as an upgrade, nor should he be. And they lose the only player most AP voters could name on UTs roster.

UT is overrated always. But ISU will be picked to finish 2nd in the league and ranked ahead of Texas preseason.

Bold move to hitch Texas’ wagon to Sark. Maybe it will work, but just seems like a less accomplished Tom Herman with more baggage.

Sark brings in a few big name transfers, maybe from Alabama, and the hype train will be in full swing. We'll see how it plays out.
 
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Combined with "the new Texas coach was the OC for 'Bama's historic offense, plus all that Texas talent."
Or that Texas talent that was a failure as an OC until he had the opponent outmanned by a mile at every position.

He made hay from getting to 7 wins at UW because he got to use the Ty Willingham disaster as his bar. It’s a team that had won a Natty like 20 years earlier. It would be like using the Charlie Strong era to measure success at Texas, but worse. UW was SO much better after Sark left.

The guy is not terrible, and mabye he will be good. But his record doesnt suggest he is an upgrade.
 
Or that Texas talent that was a failure as an OC until he had the opponent outmanned by a mile at every position.

He made hay from getting to 7 wins at UW because he got to use the Ty Willingham disaster as his bar. It’s a team that had won a Natty like 20 years earlier. It would be like using the Charlie Strong era to measure success at Texas, but worse. UW was SO much better after Sark left.

The guy is not terrible, and mabye he will be good. But his record doesnt suggest he is an upgrade.
Peterson has been much better at U Dub, I just think that will be the media's narrative on why Texas is actually going to be back "for real this time guys, we mean it!" It will be stupid and wrong, but that's how they'll justify a top 15 preseason ranking.
 
The only definite teams I see being ahead of us to start next season are Alabama, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. With Book and Lawrence gone, there’s a chance we end up ahead of ND and Clemson to start the season, but I’m not banking on that. After the first three mentioned, the next tier is honestly going to be a huge jumble between Iowa State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Georgia, Texas, UNC (since Howell is only a sophomore), and TAMU. You can probably throw one more school in there that will be overrated or that I’m forgetting about. Based on all of that, I see us anywhere between 4 and 11. I’ll take the middle on that and go with 8 to start the season. Big 12 is going to be tough. We should have four teams ranked to start the season (Oklahoma, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Texas). Next season is going to be a lot of fun!

UNC is a good call - Howell is good and they offense will be scary good next year imho.
 

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