Time to Start Wigg

[Sigmapolis]

Wigginton played 30 minutes (scored 11) last night and was in at the end of the game. Horton-Tucker played 24 minutes (scored 7) and was on the bench at the end.

I love Talen and his upside going forward, but Wigginton is better than him right now. The fact Lindell got the nod at the end of a very close game, on the road, against a Top 10 opponent, a game crucial to the season's success of the program, says who has Prohm's confidence right now. I think it is clear that our best line-up right now is the following...

Weiler-Babb
Haliburton
Wigginton
Shayok
Jacobson

...until, at least, Cameron comes back at 100%.

THT should still play 20-25 minutes per night -- but Wigginton should start.

Haliburton cannot create his own shot in the half-court, but he is way too much of a high-efficiency player to take off the court right now. He contributes without demanding touches, like Shayok, Wigginton, and Horton-Tucker do, with his excellent defense, spot-up shooting, by keeping the ball moving, not turning the ball over, and he is developing a Naz-like ability and flair for finishing or finding an open man when streaking on the fast break.

You can never have too many 3&D wing types, and Haliburton is already a good one. The fact he had six assists and zero turnovers last night certainly helps.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Someone will have to accept a bench role, either THT or Haliburton are the logical spots to put Lindell back in the starting lineup. THT probably should be the guy based on his play as he seems to be the guy that comes out the most right now when his shot is not falling but Haliburton I think would probably accept a 6th man role better.

I'm not sure that Lard was trending to take over a starting spot before his injury either. His play and effort was getting much better but I don't see a scenario where he takes Jacobson's starting spot even if he didn't get hurt. He may wind up playing more minutes than him off the bench in some games though.

You put that first part better than I did.

I love Jacobson, but Lard is the man if he continues to play like he started to right before the injury, as he has many natural gifts that Jacobson doesn't have (a little bigger, stronger and a rim protector). Still a spot for Jacobson in any scenario, but Lard may take the starts (it would be a great sign if he could).

 

[Tre4ISU]

The difference being we know how much better Wigg can play and in big games vs THT. His stats were to show he is rounding into form in other areas of his game. Coming off the bench has not produced the desired results at this point, why not at least see if starting him will help him get his game back?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to ride hard for THT here, but I'm concerned with the shooting.

 

[isuno1fan]

It’s fine as is. He played 30min last night.

 

[Cycsk]

I'd just be worried that if THT goes to a 6th man role it might hurt his confidence

Not worried of THT's confidence. He seems pretty solid regardless of the circumstances. I could see him embracing a "Super Sixth Man" role, particularly if it is key to us winning the Big 12.

 

[180class]

But his defense....WOOF!

 

[isuno1fan]

I don’t see Prohm changing the starters bar an injury. We are more than halfway through the season.
Some of you might not like it but my bet is the starters are who they are the rest of the year.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Anybody who says Nick is not starting has as screw loose.

He is the Gandalf of our Fellowship out there.

 

[Gerbs]

Agree, NWB needs to come off the bench

 

[Tre4ISU]

Agree, NWB needs to come off the bench

Do you guys actually watch games?

 

[Dingus]

LW and THT are both struggling to some degree right now. I’d switch ‘em and see if it helps get one or both of them going.

 

[Raywswartz]

Wigginton played 30 minutes (scored 11) last night and was in at the end of the game. Horton-Tucker played 24 minutes (scored 7) and was on the bench at the end.

I love Talen and his upside going forward, but Wigginton is better than him right now. The fact Lindell got the nod at the end of a very close game, on the road, against a Top 10 opponent, a game crucial to the season's success of the program, says who has Prohm's confidence right now. I think it is clear that our best line-up right now is the following...

Weiler-Babb
Haliburton
Wigginton
Shayok
Jacobson

...until, at least, Cameron comes back at 100%.

THT should still play 20-25 minutes per night -- but Wigginton should start.

Haliburton cannot create his own shot in the half-court, but he is way too much of a high-efficiency player to take off the court right now. He contributes without demanding touches, like Shayok, Wigginton, and Horton-Tucker do, with his excellent defense, spot-up shooting, by keeping the ball moving, not turning the ball over, and he is developing a Naz-like ability and flair for finishing or finding an open man when streaking on the fast break.

You can never have too many 3&D wing types, and Haliburton is already a good one. The fact he had six assists and zero turnovers last night certainly helps.

All that sounds great. Need somebody with strength/height/length to guard 4 men. That guy is tht.

 

[Sigmapolis]

All that sounds great. Need somebody with strength/height/length to guard 4 men. That guy is tht.

We did not last night at the end of the game.

Everybody is playing four guards nowadays.

We freely switch on the perimeter, anyways.

 

[Halincandenza]

Wigginton has been in at the end of the games which shows you all you need to know. Some people are obsessed with advanced stats to the point they ignore what they see with their own eyes.

 

[EarthIsMan]

Honestly, who cares about who starts? Most players are more concerned about minutes.

If Wigginton's ego can handle coming off the bench, why change what is currently working?

What is more telling to me is who finishes. Last night Wigginton, Haliburton, NWB, Shayok, and Jacobson finished. Unless there is a "come to Jesus" moment I advocate for riding with what is currently working.

 

[State43]

LW should be starting and THT shouldn't. Not a knock on THT, but his defense and shooting are a real liability most of the time. I love THT's diving ability but LW is a superior player and Haliburton is too important to not start imo.

 

[bawbie]

Wigginton played 30 minutes (scored 11) last night and was in at the end of the game. Horton-Tucker played 24 minutes (scored 7) and was on the bench at the end.

I love Talen and his upside going forward, but Wigginton is better than him right now. The fact Lindell got the nod at the end of a very close game, on the road, against a Top 10 opponent, a game crucial to the season's success of the program, says who has Prohm's confidence right now. I think it is clear that our best line-up right now is the following...

Weiler-Babb
Haliburton
Wigginton
Shayok
Jacobson

...until, at least, Cameron comes back at 100%.

THT should still play 20-25 minutes per night -- but Wigginton should start.

Haliburton cannot create his own shot in the half-court, but he is way too much of a high-efficiency player to take off the court right now. He contributes without demanding touches, like Shayok, Wigginton, and Horton-Tucker do, with his excellent defense, spot-up shooting, by keeping the ball moving, not turning the ball over, and he is developing a Naz-like ability and flair for finishing or finding an open man when streaking on the fast break.

You can never have too many 3&D wing types, and Haliburton is already a good one. The fact he had six assists and zero turnovers last night certainly helps.

This is correct, except I don't care if Wigginton starts or not, I think it's irrelevant and Prohm knows the personalities and egos involved better than any of us.

But as it is right now, the minutes are easy. At the 5 is Jacobson/Conditt/Lard. At the other 4 positions are the 4 starters, with Wigginton taking all the minutes the starters are out.

I would like to see Lewis get 5-10 minutes a game, but I understand he just can't take Babb/Halliburton out right now.

I should put this in a different thread - if it wasn't already posted - but this story about "unique" players (no good comps in kenpom) is really cool - and of course includes the very unique Halliburton


Also, on THT - he's a completely different player than before conference play (and Wigginton came back). Before Eastern Ill he had 29 assists and 20 TOs. Since he has 20 assists and 4 (!!!) TOs. But in conference play he's 7-18 on 2pt shots and 4-17 on 3pt shots (and 2-7 from the FT line).

He's in a shooting funk (as is Wigginton), but has made up for it by taking care of the ball, distributing well and playing plus defense.

 

[mj4cy]

I don't mind him sitting the first 5-6 then playing the rest of the half. Keeps him away from an early foul each half.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I agree he can take minutes from Babb and Halliburton. He generated lots of movement from Tech resulting in open lanes and shots for everyone.

 

[State43]

This is correct, except I don't care if Wigginton starts or not, I think it's irrelevant and Prohm knows the personalities and egos involved better than any of us.

But as it is right now, the minutes are easy. At the 5 is Jacobson/Conditt/Lard. At the other 4 positions are the 4 starters, with Wigginton taking all the minutes the starters are out.

I would like to see Lewis get 5-10 minutes a game, but I understand he just can't take Babb/Halliburton out right now.

I should put this in a different thread - if it wasn't already posted - but this story about "unique" players (no good comps in kenpom) is really cool - and of course includes the very unique Halliburton


Also, on THT - he's a completely different player than before conference play (and Wigginton came back). Before Eastern Ill he had 29 assists and 20 TOs. Since he has 20 assists and 4 (!!!) TOs. But in conference play he's 7-18 on 2pt shots and 4-17 on 3pt shots (and 2-7 from the FT line).

He's in a shooting funk (as is Wigginton), but has made up for it by taking care of the ball, distributing well and playing plus defense.

With LW, he needs to get set when he shoots. His shots are almost all angled which is impossible to be consistent from outside. It reminds me of Matt Thomas, he struggled when he wasn't set and squared up when shooting from outside.