*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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My wife's MU grad coworker just told her that ISU and MU are leaving for the Big Ten.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? Or should I just have my wife tell her coworker that 2010 called and wants its rumors back?
 
My wife's MU grad coworker just told her that ISU and MU are leaving for the Big Ten.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? Or should I just have my wife tell her coworker that 2010 called and wants its rumors back?

I won't believe it unless it is on Twitter.
 
...and without Texas, the Big 12/8 is no better than the Big East. People need to realize that Texas is an asset to everyone's revenue in the Big 12. Without them, we probably dont have a new scoreboard, a football facility being constructed, etc. Everyone in this conference has lived off the brand Texas has brought for the past 12 years, and now all the sudden they are sick of Texas. I can see the likes of aTm and OU being upset with the LHN, because they acctually compete for the recruits that Texas is trageting, but the remaining schools rarley, if at all, compete with them for recruits, and those other schools are banking from Texas. ISU knows their role and has not barked up a storm about this. Schools like Mizzou feel some sort of entitlement here, and I dont get why.[/QUOTE]


With all of the similarities between our schools (Midwestern land grant institutions, AAU status, similar athletic profiles, etc.), I think this statement reflects the most profound difference between ISU and Mizzou.

Of course all conference members have benefitted from Texas...that's the whole POINT. Would U of I athletics be self-sufficient without the money from Michigan or Ohio? Of course not. Yet somehow, the B1G (and other conferences) manage to make it work. Everybody benefits. Sure, UM and tOSU could probably squeeze the smaller members for concessions like we've given Texas. They're just as dependent. But they DON'T. You have to ask yourself why?

Chuck's position is that ISU knows it's "place" in the the Big 12...be glad to have the access that UT provides to big games, recruiting, TV exposure, etc. Of all the Missouri fans I know, I can't imagine ANY of them talking this way. Maybe it's delusion, or an inferiority complex, or whatever. But we believe our "place" in this conference (or any other) is as an equal member - just as the more successful conferences operate.

Make no mistake, we're not blinded by success here. Take away the last 5 years or so, and our football record is probably similar to ISU's since about 1980. But we're not going to sit back at the "little kids' table" regardless of the resource advantages other schools have. We eat from a big round table (can you tell it's lunchtime?) or we don't eat at all.

Call it entitlement, call it asking for more than we're worth, or more than we deserve. But it's a common sentiment among Missouri fans. One that we're willing to ditch traditions and take our (potential) lumps in a tougher conference to support. I'll leave it to this group to figure out if ISU feels the same way.
 
My wife's MU grad coworker just told her that ISU and MU are leaving for the Big Ten.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? Or should I just have my wife tell her coworker that 2010 called and wants its rumors back?

We've never been a part of that rumor.
 
Wrong. UT is currently still in the conference. The refusal on the part of certain institutions to act as true conference partners is the reason for insecurity.

Of course Texas is still in the conference, the conference lets them have the best sweetheart deal in all the land. If they wanted to act as true conference partners they know what they need to do to keep all these other schools from looking around and/or wanting out.
 
With all of the similarities between our schools (Midwestern land grant institutions, AAU status, similar athletic profiles, etc.), I think this statement reflects the most profound difference between ISU and Mizzou.

Of course all conference members have benefitted from Texas...that's the whole POINT. Would U of I athletics be self-sufficient without the money from Michigan or Ohio? Of course not. Yet somehow, the B1G (and other conferences) manage to make it work. Everybody benefits. Sure, UM and tOSU could probably squeeze the smaller members for concessions like we've given Texas. They're just as dependent. But they DON'T. You have to ask yourself why?

Chuck's position is that ISU knows it's "place" in the the Big 12...be glad to have the access that UT provides to big games, recruiting, TV exposure, etc. Of all the Missouri fans I know, I can't imagine ANY of them talking this way. Maybe it's delusion, or an inferiority complex, or whatever. But we believe our "place" in this conference (or any other) is as an equal member - just as the more successful conferences operate.

Make no mistake, we're not blinded by success here. Take away the last 5 years or so, and our football record is probably similar to ISU's since about 1980. But we're not going to sit back at the "little kids' table" regardless of the resource advantages other schools have. We eat from a big round table (can you tell it's lunchtime?) or we don't eat at all.

Call it entitlement, call it asking for more than we're worth, or more than we deserve. But it's a common sentiment among Missouri fans. One that we're willing to ditch traditions and take our (potential) lumps in a tougher conference to support. I'll leave it to this group to figure out if ISU feels the same way.

I have been saying this about Missouri fans for a while now. And I would call it a superiority complex when it comes to Mizzou vs. ISU. I know because my whole family are Mizzou fans. It hasn't been much fun to be around them the last 5 years with ISU falling in FB and BB.
 
My wife's MU grad coworker just told her that ISU and MU are leaving for the Big Ten.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? Or should I just have my wife tell her coworker that 2010 called and wants its rumors back?

Any chance there co-worker is Jim Delany??? If not I would take it with a grain of salt...
 
Missouri in the SEC will have less success than ISU in the Big 12(former, current, or future).

Missouri is already at the absolute bottom of the Big 12 when it comes to number of championships won. So is it really a big deal to go from one basement to another?

Big 12 championships Per School
Texas - 114
Nebraska - 72
Texas A&M - 53
Baylor - 42
Oklahoma State - 40
Oklahoma - 39
Colorado - 27
Kansas - 24
Iowa State - 11
Texas Tech - 11
Kansas State - 7
Missouri - 7
 
Of course Texas is still in the conference, the conference lets them have the best sweetheart deal in all the land. If they wanted to act as true conference partners they know what they need to do to keep all these other schools from looking around and/or wanting out.

And what is that?
 
Missouri is already at the absolute bottom of the Big 12 when it comes to number of championships won. So is it really a big deal to go from one basement to another?

Big 12 championships Per School
Texas - 114
Nebraska - 72
Texas A&M - 53
Baylor - 42
Oklahoma State - 40
Oklahoma - 39
Colorado - 27
Kansas - 24
Iowa State - 11
Texas Tech - 11
Kansas State - 7
Missouri - 7

I was talking football, but yeah, you're right.
 
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