He's not wrong, he's just an *******. This absolutely is a negative and a bad thing for the program. Our best wrestler. A guy who was expected to be an anchor of the lineup for four years and who the coaches and other wrestlers have talked often about being a leader just quit or was forced off the team out of the blue 3/4 of the way through the season.
Storr to Transfer
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He's not wrong, he's just an *******. This absolutely is a negative and a bad thing for the program. Our best wrestler. A guy who was expected to be an anchor of the lineup for four years and who the coaches and other wrestlers have talked often about being a leader just quit or was forced off the team out of the blue 3/4 of the way through the season.
Storr leaving with about a month and half until NCAAs tells you this has been an issue for a while. The verbal beatdowns from Zadick are not easy to handle. Take a look at Zavatsky. Remember that long break his junior season? He had quit. Now it was Dresser that brought him back, but even with a new coaching staff he was done.
Yeah, it's a bad look. It's even worse if Parker and others follow. That means its not just one bad relationship, but more. Like anything though, it can be the unpopular thing and still be the right thing. If Storr wants the old mentality, go ahead and go get back to that, but I saw the results that came with it and want something new. We have it.
I think Harrington, Straw & some others didn't like the old staff. They seem to being making positive strides with the new staff.
Paulsons and Metcalf/Zadick have very different coaching styles. Storr is probably better under the Paulson style.
We know the direction our senior lead team went with the early season results we had last year. wasn't good. This year we had similiar early season results and the team is going a different direction.
Paulsons and Metcalf/Zadick have very different coaching styles. Storr is probably better under the Paulson style.
We know the direction our senior lead team went with the early season results we had last year. wasn't good. This year we had similiar early season results and the team is going a different direction.
Not as bad a look as winning 0 or 1 duals per year and scoring one point at nationals. It's too bad as the kid had a ton of potential but this is part of the rebuild.
I agree. Give Harrington, Straw, heck even Jennings credit as they are improving. I've said this before but Degen is the perfect example of what the staff is looking for. His aggressiveness is refreshing. And he never spent a DAY with the old staff. Not a coincidence in my book. I'd say Harrington and Straw are the second/third most similar to him on the team.
Even if they spent one season red shirting it can mold them and develop bad habits. I would argue that is the most important season for a wrestler. Not so much the results, but getting antiquated with the lifestyle, expectations, and work ethic.
I think Parker is solid with Iowa State. I think the weight cut gets to him. Dresser and staff always has great things to say about Parker's work ethics. Perfect situation for him, he gets to go to 141. Maybe Storr wasn't happy and quit mid season to allow his friend to go to 141. Especially is Parker is happy at Iowa State and Storr is not
It's going to take time because this staff expects a certain type of mentality every day. It's the same in the Iowa room and it's the same in the Oklahoma State room. Everyday there self-esteem is challenged and most kids are not used to that. That's where I'll give Cael a little credit, he doesn't really verbally berate his guys.He just gives them the wow you really suck look......
I don't view this as a negative towards the new staff, but rather just part of the change and rebuild. Clearly there are major differences between the old coaching staff and new, and some impact will be felt, even with kids with talent. If his weight is really as big an issue as many have said, maybe that was the deciding factor knowing he was struggling with weight, and moving up wasn't an option because of his inability to beat the guy above him. None of us know the final decisions and why, but I think viewing this as a negative towards the new staff isn't the right thing to do. He may be one of the team's better wrestlers, but if he didn't like it and couldn't hack it, then good for him moving on and good luck. Can't treat him any different solely because he is one of the best -- that was probably major issue #1 with the old staff.
The improvement on this team since the start of the year has been significant, so lets start with a positive. I hope nothing but the best for Storr and hope he gets to transfer to a place he is happy and can wrestle right away next year. Hope this turns out to be a positive for Parker moving to 141 and Simmons continuing to improve. I am in love with this coaching staff and the change in attitudes. If more transfer then so be it, the culture is still changing and doesn't happen overnight.
Degen is the best starter.
Wish the kid the best of luck. He has the talent and wherever he ends up they will benefit from him. That being said if he couldn't handle the new way best thing he did was say Bye Bye. I have full trust in Dresser, Z, Met and St. John.
Anyone that wanted the old ways of doing things can have their 1 point at nationals...I want our program to be at the top and that is exactly what our coaches want to.
Anyone that wanted the old ways of doing things can have their 1 point at nationals...I want our program to be at the top and that is exactly what our coaches want to.
Not sure if Parker moving up to 141# is the best thing for him this late in the season. I do agree that Simmons at 133# and Parker at 141# makes the most sense. It's gong to be alot tougher for Parker to get on the podium considering the depth at 141#. Storr requesting a transfer mid-season is one thing but not being on the team after the request might not have been his choice but the coaches decision, either way, it wasn't working out for him and I don't fault him or the coaching staff.
Like someone mentioned previously, the coaches staff approach isn't for everyone. Good luck to Storr wherever he ends up going.
Yep. Not the most talented, but the best between the ears.
Another note, I really hope Colbray stays too. If he stays the course, works with Kyven, Marcus, Shapiro, etc. I still think 2xAA isn't out of the question.
I think Parker will be a better wrestler at 141 but it might not show in results because of how stacked 141 is this year.
Parker has some of the better wins this year but 133 is just a really tough cut for him. Sometimes bumping up a weight is the best thing for kids. And honestly, it is the way the sport is trending, which I see as a good thing.
Parker has some of the better wins this year but 133 is just a really tough cut for him. Sometimes bumping up a weight is the best thing for kids. And honestly, it is the way the sport is trending, which I see as a good thing.
I wonder if something else was going on family/personal issues.
Seems weird for him to waste a shot at nationals, with only a couple months left in the season, just because he didn't get along well with the coaches. Knowing you only get 4 chances to wrestle in the postseason, you'd think he'd have been able to stick it out. If he bailed on the rest of the year because he couldn't handle the coaches telling him he wrestled like crap when he wrestled like crap, then I say good riddance, exactly the kind of guy they need to get out.
Seems weird for him to waste a shot at nationals, with only a couple months left in the season, just because he didn't get along well with the coaches. Knowing you only get 4 chances to wrestle in the postseason, you'd think he'd have been able to stick it out. If he bailed on the rest of the year because he couldn't handle the coaches telling him he wrestled like crap when he wrestled like crap, then I say good riddance, exactly the kind of guy they need to get out.
Whoever gets the call to wrestle 141#, this weekend will be a challenge, "welcome to 141#".
26-Jan Longo, Michael OU
28-Jan Heil, Dean OSU
2-Feb Hampton, Sam NDSU
3-Feb Pohlmeyer, Henry SDSU
9-Feb Deloza, Chris FSU
10-Feb Alber, Josh UNI
18-Feb Turk, Vincent IA
Wrestling at this level isn't for everyone. Wrestling for this staff definitely isn't for everyone. The ones who can commit and want to be elite, ISU is going to be a great place for them.
I actually don't mind that group. Heil is probably the toughest by far. Curious how Parker/Simmons does against Alber
