No Clonefan, a real team player would forgo any opportunities for advancement so his co-workers don't get upset. I mean, what kind of team player would do such a thing?
STATEMENT FROM LUCCA STAIGER
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No Clonefan, a real team player would forgo any opportunities for advancement so his co-workers don't get upset. I mean, what kind of team player would do such a thing?
I suppose it depends. I guess it depends on who your "teammates" are. If you are 40 years old, you have a mortgage, wife, two kids, etc. then you probably make the jump to a better career opportunity because in that case you are making a decision that will benefit your family. However, If I just recently went into a partnership with a group of people and I knew that my leaving would jeopardize the company and break my promise to my partners. Under those circumstances I would not leave.
I can guarantee you I would not leave the day before a huge project is due, when we are in crunch time trying to complete something, with absolutely no notice.
Most everyone I would think would give proper notice so their role can be filled and the projects that can't be finished can be transitioned to someone else.
It's not a great analogy anyway, because in the business world there is no "offseason" and "season".
Temperflare,
I guess the issue for alot of us is that we are living the "real life." In the business world there is absolutely no loyalty to anyone usually and anymore people sometimes aren't even loyal to their spouse or family. However, all of us can remember being part of a sports team growing up. Doing two-a-days in football, running killers in basketball. For most of us we remember that bond with our teammates and miss it. Which is the same reason why most people on here are absolutely bewildered by a person giving up an opporunity that so many of us still long for.
I'll accept this analogy, however I do think the circumstances are much different in this instance where Lucca is choosing a professional career over completing this season in college.
All I am trying to say is that in most every situation in life, an individual is going to do what is best for him or herself, and their families. Many here act like they were personally owed something by Lucca. It seems that he was recruting under no false pretenses, and he made it apparent that he was going to play college basketball in order to try to get to the NBA. There was a serious amount of money for him in Germany, and it was clear he was "spinning his wheels" here in the U.S. Hate to see him go, but I can appreciate the reasons he has given.
Actually, I haven't gotten that impression from more than a few. Most are saying that Lucca owed his teammates something, which is clearly true. He made them a commitment and backed out of it, with no notice, at the worst possible time.
That is classless if nothing else.
Really? Quitting in hte middle of a season is cool. You obviously know someone who knows Lucca and are trying to defend his decision. That's cool, but don't expect me to be happy about that decision. I was taught to think about others. Don't tell me that Lucca's decision is best for his teammates or that he thought about them.
And as far as disliking McDermott. I'm not sure what he expected him to do for him. McDermott can't freaking play for him. If Lucca wanted to play more maybe Lucca should have been a better player.
Based on the vulgar and profane repsonses to Lucca leaving, I would venture to say that many have taken this personally...
Understood. And being a passionate Cyclone fan I'm not too happy about it either (although I'm more passionate about football).
Thing is, by staying Lucca could be giving up an opportunity that he is longing for. I mean, he still could have signed at the end of this season. Maybe there is more money now for him than what would be available later. I don't know and neither does anyone else at this point.
Look, I grew up an Army brat and spent 4 years in the Marine Corps infantry. I know commitment. I know team. I know you don't bail on people. However, I know the difference between life or death and this isn't it. Our team can and will be successful without him.
I'm not sticking up for Lucca because I know him, nor am I close with someone that knew him (the person who I got that information from is more of an acquantance). Are you suggesting that people should be making their personal decisions based on what is best for the people around him? It sucks that he left, and I feel bad for his teammates that have trusted him, but to suggest that he should be making decisions about his own personal well being based on what is best for his teammates is some kind of bizzare Utilitarian notion.
No it's not. If I get a new job, I have to give some notice. If I sign a contract for work, I have to complete it. You can't just quit in life.
Look he's a big boy who apparently values his chance to make money, so I'm pretty sure he doesn't care that he upset the fans that supported him. And I don't care anymore if he has any success in basketball.
I agree as that would be the right thing to do and most who extend an opportunity for you to leave will give you time to complete a large project before leaving.
However I don't believe Europe's professional league bases the timliness of its decisions on the length and duration of the NCAA's basketball schedule.
I think now is the time we need to get behind our team more than ever in light of all the recent quitters, injuries, suspensions, dismissals, etc...
Maybe this will light a fire under the remaining players and give them something to prove, that they can do it without him. I hope we storm Texas Tech tomorrow night and take no prisoners. I hope we show everyone that we are capable of winning with only 7 scholarship players. I know we can definitely do it.
And on Saturday I think we as fans need to represent more than ever and show this team that we support them and still believe in Hilton Magic. I want the foundation of Hilton Coliseum to be crumbling because of how loud it is on Saturday.
Maybe this will light a fire under the remaining players and give them something to prove, that they can do it without him. I hope we storm Texas Tech tomorrow night and take no prisoners. I hope we show everyone that we are capable of winning with only 7 scholarship players. I know we can definitely do it.
And on Saturday I think we as fans need to represent more than ever and show this team that we support them and still believe in Hilton Magic. I want the foundation of Hilton Coliseum to be crumbling because of how loud it is on Saturday.
There are a lot of things I would like to say right now about the whole thing but I'll keep them to myself. The timing of this is ridiculous to say the least. And he knows how crappy the timing is. Thanks Lucca.
Cyclonepride
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It's really hard to see how waiting a little over a month would hurt anything. But, he's a young man, and sometimes young people don't make the best choices. Oh well, what's done is done. Time to focus on ISU basketball, and he's no longer a part of that.
