Statement from Big 12 Conference

[CyFan61]

This is the part that bothers me the most:

However, after reviewing the video evidence it is impossible to tell with certainty when the runner loses control of the ball

You don't have to know that exact information to be able to overrule the call!

Make an inference and use some logic. We have additional evidence based on Jeremiah George running away from the pile with the football.

The relevant question is, "Is there any way that the runner could have had control of the ball at the moment that he was first down by contact, considering the evidence of Jeremiah George running away with the ball?"

The answer is obviously no. In order for George to run away at the time that he did, he would have had to gain control of the ball prior to the runner being down. This obviously means that the runner could not have had control of the ball at the moment that he was first down by contact.

It's like the league saying "The video shows 2 + X = 4, and ISU is saying that X = 2, but because the video didn't directly show 2 + 2, we can't be sure so the call stands."

 

[djcubby]

Walt Anderson: Doctorate of Dentistry, University of Texas, 1978

Huh, I would have guessed proctology, not dentistry.

 

[BKLYNCyclone]

Anyone have a link to the replay that was taken from behind the play, the one they used to listen to the whistle...? I'm sure it is out there, but for now it seems to have magically disappeared.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I can't help but read that statement like the Matthew McConaughey closing argument in A Time to Kill.

"... now imagine the team recovering the ball is Texas."

Don't say Matthew McConaughey. **** that Longhorn.

 

[cyhiphopp]

IMPOSSIBLE??


That's pretty frickin strong.

You can clearly tell exactly when JG has the ball and at that very second you can also see both of the ball carriers knees not on the ground. That doesn't seem impossible to determine.

 

[CYUL8R]

Huh, I would have guessed proctology, not dentistry.

Well dentistry would help one determine just how much one could fit in one's mouth, under certain circumstances.

That reminds me...isn't Iowa a big dentistry school? Coincidence?

 

[jsb]

The real acknowledgement will be if Rhoads is fined. I stand by my consideration that he gets nothing.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Huh, I would have guessed proctology, not dentistry.

Pretty much the same thing since everyone he's around has their head up their butthole

 

[HFCS]

We absolutely HAVE to have "LEAVE NO DOUBT" or "LEAVE NO QUESTION" stitched onto our basketball and football jersey's next year and have this as a theme for all sports.

To have big games so clearly stolen by crooked officials in the final seconds against the teams the league clearly wants to win is absolutely disgusting. Not to mention there's a long history of this. It's our first time with the game being thrown against Texas football, but we've had several against KU hoops. Absolutely disgusting.

I'd go so far as to print it as a win in the programs going forward, something has to be done, especially when they deny that it even happened.

 

[Rods79]

Officials should not be from the same area as the conference. The Head of Officials should not be a graduate of any competing university in the conference. Why are these not rules?

 

[jbhtexas]

You don't have to know that exact information to be able to overrule the call!

Make an inference and use some logic. We have additional evidence based on Jeremiah George running away from the pile with the football.

Yes, you do need indisputable video evidence to overturn the call, because that's what the replay rule requires to overturn the call on the field. The rule does not permit the official to make an inference about what happened.

I've been looking through stills and the video clips on the Internet. In the one below

GIF: Did Texas fumble this ball away to Iowa State? - SBNation.com

When you look at the video, in real-time, it looks like George has the ball before the guy goes down. However, in the still shot, the runner looks on the ground and it is not clearly obvious that George has the ball, at least at that resolution. Is there a still online with better resolution?

 

[HFCS]

Close your eyes. Imagine what was happening.

His jersey not even long enough to cover his own midsection. Covered in his sweat. Covered in his blood. Gasping with the effort from playing a complete Big 12 football game, winded from tackling huge truck-sized running backs with the maneuverability of a Porsche two-seater, exhausted from covering NFL-caliber tight ends and wide receivers all night long.

Close your eyes and imagine.

He's carrying a football. Running up the field, nobody else there but himself, the freshly cut grass, the warm Indian summer air, the smell of smoke from thousands of tiny grills. Carrying the football away from the pile behind him of overgrown, overmuscled twenty-something kids who have no idea the ball is no longer in their midst. There is nothing standing between him and the siren-like call of the endzone and victory for his team.

Can you see him? Can you?

Now imagine he plays for Texas. Thank you.

It's really simple. The Big 12 is 100% WRONG and is verifying that this game was thrown.

The minute they said it's a down by contact situation it's obviously ISU ball. George has the ball when you can see the Texas player is not down. It is conclusive. His legs are off the ground with George running the other direction with the ball.

If the Big 12 wanted to construct a BELIEVABLE lie they could have created a better lie that it was actually about forward progress and an inaudible whistle blew the play dead before the strip. At least that could be confirmed by video evidence. The very thing the Big 12 said happened is proved to be conclusively the wrong call by several camera angles. It's a fix, just like KU hoops was a fix last year, just like KU is the only team that would ever have a dead ball 3 pointer allowed to stand.

 

[A-town Cy]

Throw it back! Throw it back!

 

[cyhiphopp]

Well dentistry would help one determine just how much one could fit in one's mouth, under certain circumstances.

That reminds me...isn't Iowa a big dentistry school? Coincidence?

Dentistry makes sense because they are all sadists. See Tim Whatley.

 

[CyFan61]

Yes, you do need indisputable video evidence to overturn the call, because that's what the replay rule requires to overturn the call on the field. The rule does not permit the official to make an inference about what happened.

You are claiming that an inference based solely on the video evidence cannot be considered "indisputable." That is not correct. Of course it can be.

That's in a general sense - not applying it directly to the video/situation that we are in.

 

[MartyFine]

Yes, you do need indisputable video evidence to overturn the call, because that's what the replay rule requires to overturn the call on the field. The rule does not permit the official to make an inference about what happened.

I've been looking through stills and the video clips on the Internet. In the one below

GIF: Did Texas fumble this ball away to Iowa State? - SBNation.com

When you look at the video, in real-time, it looks like George has the ball before the guy goes down. However, in the still shot, the runner looks on the ground and it is not clearly obvious that George has the ball, at least at that resolution. Is there a still online with better resolution?

There is no dispute that George had the ball before the runner was down. There is no need to start listing the elements of "indisputable video evidence" so that we can apply those to last night. It was a fumble. The officials screwed up, just like they had been doing all night. They should never work in the Big 12 again.

It's that simple.

 

[cycloneG]

You are claiming that an inference based solely on the video evidence cannot be considered "indisputable." That is not correct. Of course it can be.

That's in a general sense - not applying it directly to the video that we have.

You use big words. I like you.

 

[Tre4ISU]

So, seeing a guy running with the ball before the ball carrier is even down by contact isn't enough evidence. **** that and **** you. That's a hose**** cover up. Jeremiah George made a play to win a game and your ****** officials took that moment from him.

 

[KnappShack]

Time to scrub the Big 12 logo from the field and replace it with a skull and crossbones.

We are obviously the black sheep of this confederation

 

[TykeClone]

Dentistry makes sense because they are all sadists. See Tim Whatley.

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