Source: K.J. Bluford is transferring

[ChiClones]

Can't wish this guy luck or root for him. You start what you finish. Selfish. Transfer after the season but don't hurt the team that needs you in practice! A chance to be on a great TEAM and he's all ME. Thanks for nothing.

Now if was not entirely his call, then that's different.

 

[JBone84]

Best of luck to you wherever you end up, KJ!

 

[Dandy]

Think of Bluford as an insurance policy on the shooting guard position. Fred brought in insurance for the just-in-case situations such as MThomas being not as good as they thought or SDorsey-Walker/NLong not developing. Those three guys, along with the addition of DKane made the insurance policy useless and therefore was no longer needed. I'm not saying CFH dropped Bluford but he surely wasn't using him so Bluford chose to move on. It happens a lot in college sports.

 

[nallen34]

Wow, enter Norm to back up Cliff No he isn't right but thank you for prolonging this. I am not sure why this isn't sinking in your examples actually prove me right. . TRENCY didn't actually redshirt he sat out a year in academic residence. He played his freshman year juco and 12 games his sophmore year at tech using up 2 years of eligibility. He enrolled in january beginning his residence as a fulltime wku student (this is actual requirement BEFORE you play not sitting out in other wirds you cant sit out at ayour current school etc) and he will play this january as a jr with 1.5 years of eligibility If yellow snow and now you were right he would have 2.5 years remaining as he has only played 1.5. But in reality he had 2 years of athletic eligibility left at wku but had to sit out the first semester due to academic residency requirement.

I posted his texas tech bio page to show you that he came into texas tech as a redshirt sophomore. So therefore he red shirted at his community college in 2010-11. He then played at his community college as a RS/Fr in 2011-12. He then played at Texas Tech during the 2012 season from Nov 9, 2012-Jan 8, 2013(12 games). He then again redshirted for the second time in his collegiate career from Jan 8, 2013-Dec 14, 2013(one academic year). He then became eligible to play and has since played 4 games at Western Kentucky. He is currently a RS/Jr and has 1.5 seasons left as of today, even though he has only played in 1.5 full seasons to date as a college athlete while red shirting 2 years(aka double redshirt). So he will only play 1.5 more seasons. Which will give him 3 full total seasons to play. He played a full season in 2011-12. He played a half season in 2012-13(fall semester 2012). Then he sat out/fulfilled academic residence requirements/red shirted a full season(spring semester 2013 & fall semester 2013) and will play a half season in 2013-14(spring semester 2014). Here are some quotes from my links:

"JUNIOR (2012-13): Transferred to WKU following the first semester of the 2012-13 season and will become eligible to play for WKU after the conclusion of the first semester of the 2013-14 season."

"PRIOR TO TEXAS TECH
Trency Jackson is a transfer, who led the Northwest Florida State College Raiders (31-2) to the NJCAA national title game ... named to the NJCAA Region 8 All-Tournament Team ... averaged 10.3 points, 3.1 assists, 1.6 rebounds and 1.2 steals as a redshirt freshman ... named first team All-Freshman and first team All-Panhandle Conference last season"



Sorry man you're wrong.

 

[nallen34]

IAStubborn you do realize that McKay could have played 17 games this season at Marquette until the spring semester started on 1/13/14.

Marquette Men's Basketball Official Schedule - Marquette Golden Eagles Official Athletic Site

Then he could have transferred to Iowa State and enrolled on 1/13/14 and been eligible to play on 12/19/14(end of fall 2014 semester).

He would have fulfilled his(in your words) "residency requirement of sitting out a full year at the athletes new school." This is also known as a red shirt; which is sitting out two consecutive semesters in a row at your new school.

 

[Cydkar]

Can't wish this guy luck or root for him. You start what you finish. Selfish. Transfer after the season but don't hurt the team that needs you in practice! A chance to be on a great TEAM and he's all ME. Thanks for nothing.

Now if was not entirely his call, then that's different.

I agree 100%

Signed,
Jameel McKay

 

[Psiclone]

1. I did, but will again. He is not eligible this fall under the transfer residency requirement. It is not that you have to "sit out a year" or redshirt a year as is commonly stated. You must be in academic residance 1 year at your new school BEFORE you can play (so you can acclimate to academics as transfers tend to perform worse or so goes the reasoning) Since mckay enrolled at marquette he could not be in residency at ISU. That could not begin until this semester hence he will not fulfill the residency requirement until next december.
2.mckay is not redshirting next fall he is redshirting this year. (As the previous poster stated redshirts are granted at the end of the academic year). You can sitout like mckay over the course of 2 academic years to fulfill the residency requirement but that isnt the same as redshirting. Often recruits use their residency year with a redshirt year so they dont lose eligibility but if you dont have one you lose a year like uthoff did at iowa for his residency year.
3. I EDITED, only second half of your statement was false.
4.no he did not use a semester of eligibility because he redshirted. You get 5 years to play 4. You are eligible to use any one of the 5 to play. Campos was eligible to play (juwt like every redshirt) this year but did not burn a year. Mckay DID NOT burn a semester, he is redshirting this year.
Bluford will either sit all of next year to redshirt [if he has one] or just play second semester next year for half a year burning his final year. Thie seems most logical given the timing but not sure who takes a guy for .5 year.

Is an "academic year" defined in terms of a calendar year or two full-time semesters? If two full-time semesters, would taking classes full-time this fall and in the summer qualify an "academic year?"

 

[IAStubborn]

I posted his texas tech bio page to show you that he came into texas tech as a redshirt sophomore. So therefore he red shirted at his community college in 2010-11. He then played at his community college as a RS/Fr in 2011-12. He then played at Texas Tech during the 2012 season from Nov 9, 2012-Jan 8, 2013(12 games). He then again redshirted for the second time in his collegiate career from Jan 8, 2013-Dec 14, 2013(one academic year). He then became eligible to play and has since played 4 games at Western Kentucky. He is currently a RS/Jr and has 1.5 seasons left as of today, even though he has only played in 1.5 full seasons to date as a college athlete while red shirting 2 years(aka double redshirt). So he will only play 1.5 more seasons. Which will give him 3 full total seasons to play. He played a full season in 2011-12. He played a half season in 2012-13(fall semester 2012). Then he sat out/fulfilled academic residence requirements/red shirted a full season(spring semester 2013 & fall semester 2013) and will play a half season in 2013-14(spring semester 2014). Here are some quotes from my links:

"JUNIOR (2012-13): Transferred to WKU following the first semester of the 2012-13 season and will become eligible to play for WKU after the conclusion of the first semester of the 2013-14 season."

"PRIOR TO TEXAS TECH
Trency Jackson is a transfer, who led the Northwest Florida State College Raiders (31-2) to the NJCAA national title game ... named to the NJCAA Region 8 All-Tournament Team ... averaged 10.3 points, 3.1 assists, 1.6 rebounds and 1.2 steals as a redshirt freshman ... named first team All-Freshman and first team All-Panhandle Conference last season"



Sorry man you're wrong.

You state here nothing I am contending? How am I wrong? He didnt use a second redshirt (a redshirt you don't lose eligibility) he sat out during his year in academic residency. How does this remotly prove your point. It proves mine
year 1. Redshirt at juco.
Year 2. Played juco as rs freshman.
Year 3 played at tech for 12 games as redshirt sophmore. Enrolls at wku second semester but sita out to fulfill academic residency.
Year 4 redshirt jr. At wku sits out firat semester to fulfikl academic residency.
Playing second semester
Year 5 will be redshirt senior at wku.

Bluford year 1(or 2)layed juco (not sure if he used a red shirt)
Bluford year 2: played juco
Year 3: played 11 games at ISU trnsfers to new school.
Year 4: will be eligable second semester but if he does this will only have .5 year of eligability if he sits out entire year as a redshirt (if he has one) can play full year 5. He cannot however play 1.5 more years he has already played basketball in 3 academic years. He at most had 1 year left.

How am I wrong?

 

[CyCy]

The McKay and Bluford eligibility situations are different. McKay never played this year, therefore it doesn't count as a year of eligibility used. Bluford played so that counts as a year.

McKay can sit out until second semester next year, then play 1 1/2 years. If Bluford transfers and sits out until second semester next year he will only have 1/2 year to play. Basketball eligibility is per year, not per semester. If you play one game, that is a year of eligibility used (barring medical hardship).

 

[CyJack13]

IAStubborn you do realize that McKay could have played 17 games this season at Marquette until the spring semester started on 1/13/14.

Marquette Men's Basketball Official Schedule - Marquette Golden Eagles Official Athletic Site

Then he could have transferred to Iowa State and enrolled on 1/13/14 and been eligible to play on 12/19/14(end of fall 2014 semester).

He would have fulfilled his(in your words) "residency requirement of sitting out a full year at the athletes new school." This is also known as a red shirt; which is sitting out two consecutive semesters in a row at your new school.

No, you might call sitting out two consecutive semesters redshirting but it's actually not. Guys who are actually redshirting are eligible to play at any point during the season and the redshirt only becomes official one the season is over and the player has not played. Players who are redshirting can also travel to road games as they are eligible players. Players who are sitting out due to a transfer are not eligible to play and also cannot travel to road games with the team.

 

[IAStubborn]

IAStubborn you do realize that McKay could have played 17 games this season at Marquette until the spring semester started on 1/13/14.

Marquette Men's Basketball Official Schedule - Marquette Golden Eagles Official Athletic Site

Then he could have transferred to Iowa State and enrolled on 1/13/14 and been eligible to play on 12/19/14(end of fall 2014 semester).

He would have fulfilled his(in your words) "residency requirement of sitting out a full year at the athletes new school." This is also known as a red shirt; which is sitting out two consecutive semesters in a row at your new school.

Yes I realize this and instead of 1.5 years if playing at ISU he would only have .5 years having used a year of eligibility. I dont think you understand what snow and I were arguing about. You have affirmed my position with every post (except for semantics, you are calling academic residency a second redshirt, fine except a real redshirt you can't take in two different academic years without losing eligibility, a redshirt year is the year you can sit out without playing or using one of your 4 years of play). He thinks Bluford will be able to play in 2 more academic years at a d-1 school despite having already played in 3. This is false and not analogous to the McKay situation as he states.

 

[State43]

Can't wish this guy luck or root for him. You start what you finish. Selfish. Transfer after the season but don't hurt the team that needs you in practice! A chance to be on a great TEAM and he's all ME. Thanks for nothing.

Now if was not entirely his call, then that's different.

I think your signature shows my reaction to your quote.
How selfish that he actually wants to play basketball and not ride pine the rest of his college career. lol

I agree 100%

Signed,
Jameel McKay

+5
Signed,
Scott Christopherson, Chris Babb, Deandre Kane, Will Clyburn & Anthony Booker

 

[IAStubborn]

Is an "academic year" defined in terms of a calendar year or two full-time semesters? If two full-time semesters, would taking classes full-time this fall and in the summer qualify an "academic year?"

Two regular 12 hour semesters or 3 quarters depending on school type (per ncaa transfer brochure). ISU is on a semester system so technically I am not sure why McKay or Bluford couldnt take a 12 hour summer load but I have never heard of anyone doing this so am guessing they cannot count summer as a regular semester.

 

[clone4lyfe]

I guess at least he got a free trip to Hawaii out of the deal!

 

[Cydkar]

I guess at least he got a free trip to Hawaii out of the deal!

Yeah, but he's passing up trips to Lubbock and Waco so it's all square.

 

[Cycsk]

Niang, Hogue, Nader, Mckay, Edozie, Gibson not a horrible 6 deep. Edozie could be ready by next year. Naz and Thomas haven't been world beaters lately but they looked better our first 7 games and will again. Sdw is getting better and monte is solid and will be better. Rashad would be great if not him would like a seasoned shooter to add to our mix if he can play right away otherwise I would have no quilm adding a transfer that sat out next season for 2015. 1 to replace hogue.

I could see Percy playing an important role, such as playing some good minutes in the first halves against teams with aggressive bigs from whom he can draw fouls.

 

[mikem]

I'm sure Fred sits down and has a heart to heart with these guys and basically says....

"Look, I don't really see your skillset fitting in here. Would you like me to help you find a program where you can contribute and play a significant role?"

It's probably a mutual thing to some degree and even though the players are likely hurt, hearing the reality of the situation, it really is better for them if they can go to a different program and find a bigger role. Look at Sledge and McKight and the success that they have had.

I would assume that every coach does this at the end of the season with every player.

 

[ISU42]

I think your signature shows my reaction to your quote.
How selfish that he actually wants to play basketball and not ride pine the rest of his college career. lol

+5
Signed,
Scott Christopherson, Chris Babb, Deandre Kane, Will Clyburn & Anthony Booker

Why did you list guys who transferred after the season when his point was about transferring in the middle of the season?

 

[ChiClones]

I think your signature shows my reaction to your quote.
How selfish that he actually wants to play basketball and not ride pine the rest of his college career. lol

+5
Signed,
Scott Christopherson, Chris Babb, Deandre Kane, Will Clyburn & Anthony Booker

Did those guys leave midseason? Totally different.

 

[mikem]

Just shut up. Please.

Okoro had both his dad and brother die during the season, and you think Hoiberg "strongly encouraged" him to look at other schools? He's from New York and went back home. Jesus...

Hawk fans grasp at straws to discredit Fred. Jealousy is a bad characteristic.