Recruit Lists v2.0

[The_Architect]

Your post made me wonder what our ongoing relationship with Vaughn will be like. We know that the recruiting doesn't stop when a verbal is given (e.g. Lazard), but what will it look like for us to keep recruiting Vaughn. Or do we just totally let him go? It seems like we have invested too much to let him go until he signs.

Good question. I think we felt "betrayed" enough that it's over for good. Who knows though.

 

[Cydkar]

Good question. I think we felt "betrayed" enough that it's over for good. Who knows though.

If he calls in a month and says he'd like to come to ISU and he won't charge us we would be inclined to listen.

 

[The_Architect]

If he calls in a month and says he'd like to come to ISU and he won't charge us we would be inclined to listen.

You're right. I wonder what happens if that call takes place after we get other commits to fill up our schollies.

 

[rholtgraves]

Speaking of which, doesn't this put them at like 16 players for next year?

Verbal Commits ‏@VerbalCommits 41s
Former San Francisco G Cody Doolin is transferring to UNLV. (HT @Rebel_net) http://verbalcommits.com/players/cody-doolin …

I remember on one of their boards there was rumors a few players would try to go Pro.

 

[Gunnerclone]

April 16 is signing day, long after the tournament is over. If we go deep into the tournament and get lots of pub for Fred's "NBA style coaching," it is remotely conceivable Vaughn could change his mind and sign with us. I highly doubt that happens though.

Honestly think there's a better chance he switches to UK, KU, or UNC at that point.

 

[Dandy]

For a guess on who may be available for transfers just see which teams have coaches on the hot seat.

For the sake of conversation:

Vanderbilt, Purdue, Seton Hall, Boston College, DePaul, South Florida, Auburn, Wake Forest, Washington State, Oregon State.
10 College Basketball Head Coaches Who Should Be On the Hot Seat

Others named above along with Rice, Georgia, Fordham.
10 College Basketball Coaches on the Hot Seat in the 2013-14 Season | Bleacher Report

There is an ESPN Insider article that also names more. Notably includes Stanford and Oklahoma State.
Oklahoma State coach Travis Ford among coaches on the hot seat - CBB - ESPN

 

[JVAR]

For the sake of conversation:

Vanderbilt, Purdue, Seton Hall, Boston College, DePaul, South Florida, Auburn, Wake Forest, Washington State, Oregon State.
10 College Basketball Head Coaches Who Should Be On the Hot Seat

Others named above along with Rice, Georgia, Fordham.
10 College Basketball Coaches on the Hot Seat in the 2013-14 Season | Bleacher Report

There is an ESPN Insider article that also names more. Notably includes Stanford and Oklahoma State.
Oklahoma State coach Travis Ford among coaches on the hot seat - CBB - ESPN

It would be awesome if Seton Hall's coach Kevin Willard on that list got canned and we could get another crack at SG Isaiah Whitehead, who is a McD's All-American. I know Matt A. recruited him hard for awhile, but don't know how serious was with us. I suspect that we made a harder push for Vaughn. He would be just what we need next year.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Isaiah-Whitehead-120978

 

[State43]

It would be awesome if Seton Hall's coach Kevin Willard on that list got canned and we could get another crack at SG Isaiah Whitehead, who is a McD's All-American. I know Matt A. recruited him hard for awhile, but don't know how serious was with us. I suspect that we made a harder push for Vaughn. He would be just what we need next year.
Isaiah Whitehead - Yahoo! Sports

Yeah, them landing whitehead was pretty shocking.

 

[Dandy]

Yeah, them landing whitehead was pretty shocking.

If you think UNLV's Rashad Vaughn recruitment was sketchy, check out Seton Hall and Whitehead.

Seton Hall did a package deal to get Isaiah Whitehead ... and it's smart - CBSSports.com

 

[JVAR]

If you think UNLV's Rashad Vaughn recruitment was sketchy, check out Seton Hall and Whitehead.

Seton Hall did a package deal to get Isaiah Whitehead ... and it's smart - CBSSports.com

Wow! Thanks for sharing that. I bet he is not fired then and is probably not on the hot seat as much as some think. He sounds like a worse coach than Dave Rice.

 

[imnclone]

The coaches stopped following him on twitter and vice versa so I assume contact has been cut off for the most part. Might open back up if something happens but I am sure Rice isn't going anywhere.

Not sure him going to UNLV has much to do with Rice anyway. Cliff Findlay (UNLV booster) has provided kaffey with a job for two years while RV is in LV. That relationship, whatever it is, appears to be very important to RV. The most interesting thing for me about this whole saga, is what happens to Kaffey after next season if RV is good enough to go to the NBA.

Unless grades are a factor or coaching change, I look at high-level, Spring recruits with suspicion. ISU could have been a backup plan I suppose.


Anyway, back to 2nd chance guys, jucos and solid 50 to 125 recruits. Makes for a pretty good program.

 

[Wesley]

April 16 is signing day, long after the tournament is over. If we go deep into the tournament and get lots of pub for Fred's "NBA style coaching," it is remotely conceivable Vaughn could change his mind and sign with us. I highly doubt that happens though.

We just do not have the $$$$$.

 

[State43]

 

[Nuts4Cy]

If you don't think Iowa State or anyone else pays for players, you are mistaken. And it's been going on for years. Maybe not directly, but it has happened. I know a very prominent former player in Ames who openly tells of all the money available to them at any given moment. Here is an old article but very true.

"There's one particular program right now - an elite program that most fans wouldn't ever guess - that everyone in basketball knows is straight-up paying guys. Will they get caught? I don't know, but the more this stuff gets exposed, the more we can shatter these ridiculous media-fueled notions about who's dirty and who isn't."

Just How Dirty Is College Basketball Recruiting? - A Sea Of Blue

 

[mt85]

If you don't think Iowa State or anyone else pays for players, you are mistaken. And it's been going on for years. Maybe not directly, but it has happened. I know a very prominent former player in Ames who openly tells of all the money available to them at any given moment. Here is an old article but very true.

"There's one particular program right now - an elite program that most fans wouldn't ever guess - that everyone in basketball knows is straight-up paying guys. Will they get caught? I don't know, but the more this stuff gets exposed, the more we can shatter these ridiculous media-fueled notions about who's dirty and who isn't."

Just How Dirty Is College Basketball Recruiting? - A Sea Of Blue

I think Fred gambled that Rashad was a type 1 recruit when the reality is that he was a type 3 all along. I'd be willing to bet this is why we stopped recruiting a certain recruit from the Chicago area, but that is just speculation on my part.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I remember on one of their boards there was rumors a few players would try to go Pro.

A few? How many pro type players can they have on that crappy of a team?

 

[rholtgraves]

A few? How many pro type players can they have on that crappy of a team?

They are fringe players but would you rather stick around and play crap bball or just try your luck with the NBA overseas?

 

[megamanxzero35]

Didn't want to start a new thread. This seemed like a good one as any.

https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/442052335338926081

Watching Iowa State practice today. Abdel Nader (NIU) and Jameel McKay (Marquette) should have immediate impact with loss of Ejim/Kane.

 

[DSMCy]

@TravisHines21: Jerry Myles ('16, IL) expected to be in Hilton Coliseum today on an unofficial visit, per a source.

 

[ISUCY23]

@TravisHines21: Jerry Myles ('16, IL) expected to be in Hilton Coliseum today on an unofficial visit, per a source.

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