I don’t think it was an official statement although it looks like thatI’m think that big12 statement is a fake
I don’t think it was an official statement although it looks like thatI’m think that big12 statement is a fake
It will start happening when they start paying unequal revenue. When teams like Ohio St and Alabama start demanding more money than Indiana and Miss st. and suddenly those teams are getting 50% or less they will start leaving.Sometime down the road, maybe 15 years or so. Teams are going to be leaving these conferences on their own. It just won't be worth the cost and hassle. When they are forced to pay a backup offensive lineman 75K a year just to be sort of competitive, a couple of schools will say screw it. This isn't dissimilar from ISU bailing from the AAU.
It basically all comes down to FOX. Whatever they prefer will happen. If they want the Pac-10 to eat the Big 12 and screw WVU and Cincy, that will be what happens. If they want the Big 12 to do the eating and screw Wazzu and Oregon State, that will happen. If they want the B1G to come back for more, that will happen.
Lots of people are tremendously confident that the right answers are obvious and they aren’t
Im not sure they will have enough money left for the next tier. They want to concentrate all the cash in their cash cows. This is why Fox is essentially killing the PAC to take what they pay there and dump it in the B1G, they want the big names in one spot. They will leave the Big 12 to CBS/Paramount or Apple, Amazon etc.If the B1G vs. SEC war is really a proxy Fox vs. ESPN war, it seems plausible that Fox and ESPN would also battle it out for this second tier and we'd end up with two second-tier superconferences. ESPN controls one (the ACC, in whatever formation that takes) and Fox the other, made up of some combination of the Pac + New Big12.
Who knows, I just made that up. Seems as plausible as any other scenario.
Things would be really interesting if leagues start figuring out how to dump teams.
IF this happens, that would be unbelievably hard to compete with. Can't imagine Indiana getting $125 just off TV contracts. Iowa City may be paved in gold in ten years.$125M per school per year might be on the conservative side if that happens.
The Pac 12's biggest mistake was in 2010 when they didn't take Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State when the opportunity was there. Had they done so, the Power 2 would have been the Pac 12 and Big 10 and the SEC would have been left in third place.
It is dissimilar in that ISU was getting kicked out of the AAU. The staff pointed out to leadership how they were bragging about AAU status weeks before they resigned. ISU was told to leave.Sometime down the road, maybe 15 years or so. Teams are going to be leaving these conferences on their own. It just won't be worth the cost and hassle. When they are forced to pay a backup offensive lineman 75K a year just to be sort of competitive, a couple of schools will say screw it. This isn't dissimilar from ISU bailing from the AAU.
You take AZ, ASU, UU, and CO. And if OU and UW are avail you take those 2 as well. Leave the others.PAC 12 now in the position of having 10 teams and a very thin, non-committed pool of eligibles out there...Boise State, Colorado State, Memphis, SMU, etc., all of which are far from a replacement for USC and UCLA...none of these met the cut for the Big 12 when they grabbed the best 4 out there in Houston, Cincy, BYU, and Central Fl. So, their only other route is to go after the Big 12 teams...they would love Kansas...and likely pursue Okie State...maybe Tech. No way they go after Baylor or TCU. But, back to Okie State...Kansas, etc. would the $'s in the PAC, post USC and UCLA, be more than what the Big 12 will get? Likely not, especially given how USC and UCLA made the jump to the BIG once news of how crappy the new media contract for the PAC was likely going to be.
I mean, is the PAC going to make news grabbing Boise State...Colorado State...San Diego State? They have to go big and eat the top Big 12 teams or the Big 12 is going to take Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah...they would take Washington too if they are available. Teams like Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal really have to be concerned right now...big time sports deficits that quickly spiral out of control (if not already) if their cash flow goes from $35M to $5M per year.
Here's a hot take...do you go the route of the Big Pac 22 and create one super conference with two 11-team divisions...add in Boise State and Colorado State and hit 24. Nahhhhhh. Too many ego's to ever consider that.
Diving into forums across the country is fun right now. Wazzu playing out all the scenarios where they aren't screwed, without acknowledging its a possibility. Zona St laughing at WSU, OSU, and lumping in rival Zona as they won't land anywhere, acknowledging they likely won't make the B1G. Some want a revamped PAC and some want Big12. B1G fans wondering who they're grabbing next. One interesting option was doing the anti SEC and grabbing blueblood basketball UNC/Duke/Kansas. Florida State fans trying to figure out how they get out of the GOR and land safely in the SEC despite Florida. NC St fans acknowledge ACC's time is limited hoping for SEC landing spot. What a soap opera!?!?!
I think it was a screenshot from an article. Kurtz loves his articles, and there is a quote at the end. No Big 12 statement is going to have a Quote.I don’t think it was an official statement although it looks like that
Yep you’re right.I think it was a screenshot from an article. Kurtz loves his articles, and there is a quote at the end. No Big 12 statement is going to have a Quote.
You mean it isnt already? The way they talk over there I thought it already was? Jeez.... I thought the place was a dump the last time I was there. I figured they must have done this to make it special or something, cuz damn cant see what they brag about.IF this happens, that would be unbelievably hard to compete with. Can't imagine Indiana getting $125 just off TV contracts. Iowa City may be paved in gold in ten years.
We take 2 or OU and Wash leave and it’s dead don’t need to do 4Wilner is tweeting this now and it makes sense. Is killing the Pac 10 by adding the AZ schools, Utah and CO worth taking a smaller payout? Because those schools certainly don't add any money to the pot.
In this case, killing the Pac 10 in exchange for some stability probably is worth a smaller payout is my guess.
Time to tax it or require it go to reduce tuition or general scholarship funds.$125M per school per year might be on the conservative side if that happens.
How is your baseball team doing?That is directly tied to conference pay. And Iowa still cant pay its bills, and had to cut several sports last year. So there is that.
I feel like most would put it back into a university general fund at that point. You won’t need it for facilities, and NIL will be the new way to get talent. Figuring out how to launder that into an NIL fund will be the next step.Time to tax it or require it go to reduce tuition or general scholarship funds.