If Oregon jumps, the Pac 12 is dead. It’s hanging on by a thread and that’d be the nail in the coffin and the Big 12 should go full court press on the best of the rest of them
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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If Oregon jumps, the Pac 12 is dead. It’s hanging on by a thread and that’d be the nail in the coffin and the Big 12 should go full court press on the best of the rest of them
Something like this makes way more sense to be the actual truth than "Oregon/Washington don't bring enough value".
Like others are hinting...if that's the case only ND, Clemson and raiding SEC is on the table.
Sometime down the road, maybe 15 years or so. Teams are going to be leaving these conferences on their own. It just won't be worth the cost and hassle. When they are forced to pay a backup offensive lineman 75K a year just to be sort of competitive, a couple of schools will say screw it. This isn't dissimilar from ISU bailing from the AAU.
I can only imagine what their new contract would be valued at with ND and Oregon included.
I think a merger of the BIGXII and PAC-10 would be a best case scenario. 4-4 team pods and 2-3 team pods. The conference would be large enough that no one or two teams leaving would cause the thing to collapse and it would leave room for expansion. Think of the bargaining power having so much inventory of games.
If the B1G vs. SEC war is really a proxy Fox vs. ESPN war, it seems plausible that Fox and ESPN would also battle it out for this second tier and we'd end up with two second-tier superconferences. ESPN controls one (the ACC, in whatever formation that takes) and Fox the other, made up of some combination of the Pac + New Big12.
Who knows, I just made that up. Seems as plausible as any other scenario.
Assuming the Big 10 is successful in that venture against ND and Oregon (far from secure, ND can be pretty fickle), what happens to the PAC then? I don't think Washington alone can keep people on board. However it would also be an awkward set up to take, say, UW, Colorado and the Arizona schools to the Big 12. Is that where we get into full merger territory or still off from that?
I wish it was still 1990. I was a junior in college, living my best life, and not every muscle in my body hurt when I woke up unless I was severely hung over.
Talk like this without mentioning government intervention/taxation/control is silly. By the time they're paying those figures to players, ESPN will be designated 'owner' of the conference, and the whole caboodle is a completely different ballgame.
$125M per school per year might be on the conservative side if that happens.
Dodds’ take was clearly wrong. None of the P5 leagues are sitting quietly right now. There is blood in the water and there could be more for a league that’s not careful.
Looks like Yormark's start date has moved up. If it hasn't, it certainly should be.
I do believe that there is a better possibility that ND can get out of their deal with the ACC easier than any of the ACC teams and the GOR. I dont believe anyone in the Media knows exactly what that would take for them to get out of that deal.
In the end is it still easy enough, and is it just to leave a spot open for a number of years for ND, while they take others like Oregon.
PAC 12 now in the position of having 10 teams and a very thin, non-committed pool of eligibles out there...Boise State, Colorado State, Memphis, SMU, etc., all of which are far from a replacement for USC and UCLA...none of these met the cut for the Big 12 when they grabbed the best 4 out there in Houston, Cincy, BYU, and Central Fl. So, their only other route is to go after the Big 12 teams...they would love Kansas...and likely pursue Okie State...maybe Tech. No way they go after Baylor or TCU. But, back to Okie State...Kansas, etc. would the $'s in the PAC, post USC and UCLA, be more than what the Big 12 will get? Likely not, especially given how USC and UCLA made the jump to the BIG once news of how crappy the new media contract for the PAC was likely going to be.
I mean, is the PAC going to make news grabbing Boise State...Colorado State...San Diego State? They have to go big and eat the top Big 12 teams or the Big 12 is going to take Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah...they would take Washington too if they are available. Teams like Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal really have to be concerned right now...big time sports deficits that quickly spiral out of control (if not already) if their cash flow goes from $35M to $5M per year.
Here's a hot take...do you go the route of the Big Pac 22 and create one super conference with two 11-team divisions...add in Boise State and Colorado State and hit 24. Nahhhhhh. Too many ego's to ever consider that.
I mean, is the PAC going to make news grabbing Boise State...Colorado State...San Diego State? They have to go big and eat the top Big 12 teams or the Big 12 is going to take Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah...they would take Washington too if they are available. Teams like Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal really have to be concerned right now...big time sports deficits that quickly spiral out of control (if not already) if their cash flow goes from $35M to $5M per year.
Here's a hot take...do you go the route of the Big Pac 22 and create one super conference with two 11-team divisions...add in Boise State and Colorado State and hit 24. Nahhhhhh. Too many ego's to ever consider that.
