Think you’re greatly underestimating the power of the GOR, but yeah big ten has always wanted those two schools.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Virginia is rich but they don’t care about sports. They’re closer to Cal/Stanford than they are UNC/Notre Dame. I don’t see them as a shoe-in for the Big 10
The ACC exit fee is $120m.
The ACC owns their media rights, and the value of those would be somewhere between $221m (in the ACC) and $793m (in the B10) for the duration of the GOR.
ESPN isn't going to go along with blowing up the ACC if schools are going to the B10. They might be slightly more favorable if they're going to the SEC.
The ACC has a contract in place and no reason to negotiate. The schools that could maybe find a place in the B12 have no reason to negotiate so long as that's a parallel move. The schools that would get left out of the P3 have no reason to negotiate as that's an existential threat to their athletic departments.
"We don't like this contract anymore because we could get a better deal elsewhere" isn't a legal argument to break a contract.
UNC, FSU or whomever wants to get out isn't going anywhere. This is likely all posturing to try to get more money from the ACC either through structured unequal revenue distributions or a bigger cut of CFP money if they make appearances.
If it was that easy they likely would have done it by now
FSU
Miami
Clemson
UNC
UVA - maybe the outlier
These schools can NOT be happy seeing Indian and Purdue almost tripling their revenue. As we’ve seen time and time again with anything in life, a contract for a powerful institution (and in this case a small group of institutions) are basically meaningless.
The circumstances are always different. They are watching the PAC implode right now and they KNOW they are next.
My other favorite thing being thrown around is “The Big 10 doesn’t have a commisioner”.
Ya I’m sure they didn’t have any contingency for that.
Ya I’m sure they didn’t have any contingency for that.
There are powerful institutions that probably want to get out of the GOR very badly. But there are also powerful institutions that want to keep them in place. There's a lot of power on both sides.
If it really got down to it, there would be a buyout of some kind. I'm just not convinced the number the other 9 schools and ESPN would agree to is economically viable.
What is actually the revenue value of all of these?
Sure, UNC\UVA have some value. Is it additive to the big 10s 100million\school?
Thanks for the link! It’s nice hearing people from a school like Arizona who want to be in our conference.
Or, the Big10 can just tell its members that they'll have to settle for their current distributions for another year and use the extra money from one year of their new TV deal to pay for the UNC and UVA rights themselves.
$80m (expected) - $54m (current) x 14 schools = $364m. That might just about cover it.
If the basketball superleague thing is legit then I think we gotta look at ACC teams a bit differently. Duke for example has just shot up the leaderboard. Louisville was always high on it but they just got stronger too
@alarson this kind of ties to your response to this post as well. in the case of the Big 10 & SEC my opinion is that they are currently in a position where even if these schools just keep the same level of current payout for the league schools these conferences are now in a position of being able to line themselves up for the next 25 years. They can afford to look at “if we don’t add now, can we add in 8 years? If we wait, what options will there be in 5 years? If we don’t jump on these schools that we’ve always wanted now, will the SEC go and grab them just so we can’t have them?”.
But why would any of their existing members agree to take that hit?
When the ACC blows up and if neither the B1G nor SEC take Duke, we definitely will take Duke for this reason. Big 12 is going to zig into basketball first while the B1G and SEC continue zagging to football. We cannot be a top football league so we will build hoops and then wait for hoops to become a bigger piece of the media rights pie over time.
I just promised not to use the word never so I will say their is a better likelihood of me inventing a Time Machine to go back in time and have a three way with JLH and Jessica Simpson in their primes then the big ten schools agreeing to a pay cut to add any ACC school that isn’t ND and even ND would be a stretch.
Think the big 12 perception would push Duke into the big east and they would just cancel football. Ever met someone from Duke? They make Michigan arrogance look tame by comparison.
Duke's on the lock list for a B12 landing spot if the B10/SEC don't take them. They're football value is ****, but their BB value makes up the difference.
