Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

simply1

Rec Center HOF
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jun 10, 2009
45,692
34,443
113
Pdx
Love it! At some point in the game ADs/Schools are just going to go for maximum chaos to try and blow everything up. Create untenable situations.
UNC on board is pretty big I think relative to how they’re viewed in the conference.
 

KnappShack

Well-Known Member
May 26, 2008
23,871
32,226
113
Parts Unknown
Isn't that what message boards are for? At least it's mostly civil discourse.

Mostly.....but I'm ready to spring to mother ******* uncivil **** when the time comes.

Mega conference vibe is growing stronger. Players as employees and on the payroll. Maybe schools licensing out their brand and spinning teams off into their own businesses.

Brave New World
 

KnappShack

Well-Known Member
May 26, 2008
23,871
32,226
113
Parts Unknown
Hmmm.... temors coming from the ACC big dogs. Perhaps the Big 12 should consider taking only a couple of PAC teams for now so they can have space to add a few ACC teams in the future?

Come on. Unequal revenue sharing has a long history of working for a conference.

The Big 12 was built on a rock solid foundation of unequal wealth and it's given us stability that all envy.

No chance these teams will rush to the door ASAP.....no matter what concessions are made
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: JimmyChitwood

CascadeClone

Well-Known Member
Oct 24, 2009
10,878
13,962
113
Hmmm.... temors coming from the ACC big dogs. Perhaps the Big 12 should consider taking only a couple of PAC teams for now so they can have space to add a few ACC teams in the future?

LEVERAGE BABY

That also jacks up the "prisoners dilemma" pressure on the M4 by about 1000x. If you were say, ASU, and thought there was no time pressure, because Big12 probably want 4 teams to go to 16 anyway; well now the Big12 might not need 4. Now it might be only room for 2 in the lifeboat.

The Big12 hung together, and the PAC still might too. But there was no better option out there for any of the left-behinds. There wasn't even a roughly equal option, for any school. But for at least some of the PAC there is an option that is at least roughly equal.
 

BMWallace

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
Sep 11, 2011
1,532
2,912
113
Chicago, IL
Its interesting to see all the contracts laid out here. It really shows that there are basically 4 tiers as far as the money is concerned.

 
  • Informative
Reactions: Die4Cy

Gorm

With any luck we will be there by Tuesday.
Jul 6, 2010
5,846
2,723
113
Cedar Rapids, IA
Hmmm.... temors coming from the ACC big dogs. Perhaps the Big 12 should consider taking only a couple of PAC teams for now so they can have space to add a few ACC teams in the future?

If the Big 10 and SEC go to 20, the Big 12 will have its pick of an additional 4. In that situation, it seems like Louisville would be a good addition for the basketball inventory as well as football.
 

cyfan92

Well-Known Member
Sep 20, 2011
8,223
13,096
113
Augusta National Golf Club
College basketball is in such a better place than football... The parity is amazing. Revenue and TV contracts just don't matter like they do in football

From a fiscal standpoint, I'd rather be a football power than a basketball contender. But there is a 0.1% chance of us every being a power in football. However, we are already a top 30 basketball program with a top 10 recruiting class, young coach, fan support, famous arena, proven NBA path to success, and facilities to compete with 99% of the sport.
 

Pope

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Feb 7, 2015
10,557
23,975
113
On the other hand, it might not be in the Big 12's best interest for the ACC to implode right now. It would give them an opportunity to merge with the PAC and form a 24 team superconference. It seems like the PAC needs to dissolve FIRST, before the ACC does.
 

PickSix

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2013
865
1,369
93

It was honestly a fantastic listen.

Arizona Locked On Podcast host thinks Arizona will wind up in the Big 12.

He doesn't see how the PAC can put together a medial deal that's anything comparable to the Big 12s.

He says that Kliavkoff is a talker, while Yormark is a doer.

Arizona guy talks up basketball big time and is excited by the sport's potential in the Big 12

He backs up a lot of Jason Scheer's talking points, with a healthy amount of Jon Canzano bashing.
 

Gunnerclone

Well-Known Member
Jul 16, 2010
75,619
79,898
113
DSM
Meanwhile, the ACC honchos who know they have UNC locked up for another decade and realize the school will likely bolt the conference at the first opportunity anyways...

View attachment 110484

Think it would only cost UNC around 250 million to get out of the GOR. After litigation call it 200 million. Get in to Big Ten at an immediate full share and I don’t think that looks crazy.
 
  • Like
  • Agree
Reactions: im4isu and Gorm

Die4Cy

Well-Known Member
Jan 2, 2010
14,972
15,857
113
That ACC TV deal was so foolish. They basically paid ESPN in reduced earnings the bulk of costs to develop them a dedicated TV network with no ownership or potential to profit from it until the deal comes around again in 2036. They are going to be so far behind that the entire conference should be trying to figure a way to break that deal, but who would make one with them if they did?
 

Gunnerclone

Well-Known Member
Jul 16, 2010
75,619
79,898
113
DSM
That ACC TV deal was so foolish. They basically paid ESPN in reduced earnings the bulk of costs to develop them a dedicated TV network with no ownership or potential to profit from it until the deal comes around again in 2036. They are going to be so far behind that the entire conference should be trying to figure a way to break that deal, but who would make one with them if they did?

There’s always been this persistent rumor/hype around UVA and UNC to the Big Ten. So much so that there is probably something to it. Those two schools are rich. The Big Ten is rich. Personally I don’t think it would be that big of a deal for them to tell the ACC GOR to **** off and write them a check and join the Big 10.