Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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I've always hated we call it "realignment."

Like you're moving from the NFL West to the NFL South out of scheduling convenience.

Going from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten isn't "realignment."

It's joining an entirely different league (even if that league has some common rulesets, games, and notionally a combined championship with some other rival leagues) most importantly with its own TV contract.

The Jacksonville Jaguars aren't making any more money if they realign to the NFL East with some big-name draws for the TV contract like the Cowboys, Eagles, and whatever we call the DC team.

But if Florida St. ends up in the SEC then everything changes for them.

College Football Asset Consolidation combined with some corporate restructuring/mass layoffs (Oregon State, WSU) probably makes more sense but doesn't roll off the tongue.
 

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With Army/Navy now both in the ACC, no reason they can't play Thanksgiving Weekend.

When did this happen?

I don't like that the 2024 CFB season will end on Jan 21, 2025.

College football can largely avoid conflicts with the NFL schedule by moving up the playoff games. The reality is Conference Championship games are pretty meaningless. Yea, yea I realize they are a money maker for the conferences. But with the millions being made with the new 12 team playoff, the games could have been cut if Presidents were truly interested in player safety/wellbeing and driven by greed.

Using this year as an example:

Dec 6/7: 1st Round of Playoffs (1 Fri Night & 3 Sat)
Dec 13/14: 2nd Round of Playoff (1 Fri Night & 3 Sat)
** NFL started Sat games on Dec. 21 **
Dec 26/27: Semi-Finals (Night games on Thu/Fri)
Jan 3: Title game on Friday Night

With Army/Navy now both in the ACC, no reason they can't play Thanksgiving Weekend.

And if Conferences feel they need an on-field Champion to determine the CFP 1st round bye, the final week of regular season could be a flex weekend where a conferences top 2 ranked teams play at a neutral site.

No way they move things up. There still is the academic calendar to give a passing acknowledgment of. You can’t have playoff games during dead week. I thought the calendar worked well this year. Who cares about the NFL. Just play the games when you need to. If the NFL wants to overshadow their developmental league, there’s not much you can do about it.
 

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When did this happen?



No way they move things up. There still is the academic calendar to give a passing acknowledgment of. You can’t have playoff games during dead week. I thought the calendar worked well this year. Who cares about the NFL. Just play the games when you need to. If the NFL wants to overshadow their developmental league, there’s not much you can do about it.
Think it’s a typo for AAC.
 

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Good thing you got this post in before YE because it wins for dumb$hit post of the year.

I haven't agreed with JP on a couple of his pre CMC FB hires but criticizing him for how he handles the ISU AD finances is just being a complete dumb$hit on your end.

And since when did CF posters like yourself turn into effin bleeding hearts for the ESPN/SEC and Fox/B10 duopoly? It is truly bewildering how some of you have turned on JP during a process that obviously hosed over ISU.
I can’t speak for who you are replying to but…..

This isn’t a bleeding hearts club for the P2. Every single one of your posts comes have as an absolute as to what you think will happen, intentionally or not intentionally. We are simply telling you that the likelihood of what you are saying will happen is not likely. Maybe you aren’t intending it to come off that way but that’s how it reads.

No one on this board is hoping for a separation or for more schools to end up like OSU/WSU
 
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When did this happen?



No way they move things up. There still is the academic calendar to give a passing acknowledgment of. You can’t have playoff games during dead week. I thought the calendar worked well this year. Who cares about the NFL. Just play the games when you need to. If the NFL wants to overshadow their developmental league, there’s not much you can do about it.
But does it really work well for the CFB championship game to be played on Jan 21? A Monday night during the NFL Playoffs and CBB Conference season.

I might be unique, but I'm more engaged in Big12 Hoops than CFB after New Years games.

Guess I don't understand the importance of having dead week off? I'd rather have finals week off from a practice & playing games.
 
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But does it really work well for the CFB championship game to be played on Jan 21? A Monday night during the NFL Playoffs and CBB Conference season.

I might be unique, but I'm more engaged in Big12 Hoops than CFB after New Years games.

Guess I don't understand the importance of having dead week off? I'd rather have finals week off from a practice & playing games.

Don’t we have this weird schedule because the rose bowl insists that it’s game be played on Jan 1?
 

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But does it really work well for the CFB championship game to be played on Jan 21? A Monday night during the NFL Playoffs and CBB Conference season.

I might be unique, but I'm more engaged in Big12 Hoops than CFB after New Years games.

Guess I don't understand the importance of having dead week off? I'd rather have finals week off from a practice & playing games.
That being said I dont think the NFL needs to be on 5+ days/nights a week.

The1st round was on Fri/Sat, both traditionally CFB days but the NFL has taken over Saturdays During Dec.
The 2nd round is on Tue/Wed (New years) Traditionally CFB Days.
The 3rd round is on Thu/Fri Wild card weekend (non-NFL Days)
The 4th round is on Mon A non-NFL Monday

I dont think there is that big of a problem with the schedule. I am sure in future years things will get tweaked, depending on holidays etc.

I also do see how you make a much better schedule with what we have currently. this year was a pretty good schedule I thought. Sure things could get tweaked here and there, they could eliminate CCGs because they seem to not matter now, they could eliminate an off week etc. But I think we are seeing an increase in the number of playoff spots not less so it will just expand further. I guess we already have some games week zero, they could just move the entire season up a week.

As far as the issues with the Playoff system, I think the schedule (at least this year) has only minor issues vs some of the other problems needing attention.
 

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Yeah, in what world has the GOP been for more government oversight to prevent wealthy organizations from making moves to get bigger and richer. The antitrust bar is typically much lower to clear with the GOP.
This is dealing with Big Ed. Roles are typically reversed here.
 

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Makes zero sense.
maybe Blum has some insider industry info. i guess could see a lot of the midwest, mountain and west coast states reps and senators banding together across the aisles to protect school budgets as some start to pile up massive debts? there is a ton of goodwill to be earned there. but all that assumes that the next several years aren't going to be just an absolute **** show of unorganized congressman doing bonkers things and nothing getting done.
 

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No, moving for more prestigious clubs isn’t the same as moving for more money.

Realignment is as old as college athletics. For a vast majority of that, the movement wasn’t primarily about money

Nebraska didn’t move for money. Joining the BIG is a boost to institutional prestige and had been an institutional preference for decades

A&M and CU didn’t leave for more money

Texas didn’t move for money. They’d been looking for a better address for over 30 years. A&M using the SEC brand against UT was the final straw.

GT didn’t leave the SEC for more money

It’s quicker to make a list that were for money- the PAC departures following OUT.

Revenue gradients (in combination of pay-to-play) are just now large enough to be the primary, if not exclusive, cause of movement
Every single one of those schools left for money
 

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Nebraska didn’t move for money. Joining the BIG is a boost to institutional prestige and had been an institutional preference for decades

A&M and CU didn’t leave for more money

Texas didn’t move for money. They’d been looking for a better address for over 30 years. A&M using the SEC brand against UT was the final straw.

It’s quicker to make a list that were for money- the PAC departures following OUT.

Revenue gradients (in combination of pay-to-play) are just now large enough to be the primary, if not exclusive, cause of movement
Definitely wrong here on UT. Both UT and OU knew what was coming relative to the House Settlement and wanted to insure more revenue streams to fund it.
 
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Throw in that the 2 P2s come from different groups. One mostly red and one mostly blue.
i am not sure this is true when talking about football fanbases vs academic leadership. they are very similar regardless of SEC or Big 10.
 
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The single largest problem (not issue) is no clearly defined end goal. The networks are throwing wild amounts of money around to maximize their short term interests. The NCAA is essentially defunct, so there is no long term "gatekeeper" of the actual game/sport/competition. This has led all schools (and conferences) to behave even more selfishly
Eventually, to gain any sort of stability, the top 72-80 football programs will have to buy in to some form of centralized governance and administration that supplants the NCAA; decisions about long term viability, competition and championship crowning become more manageable. The laws governing how college football industry operates are no longer applicable for the full spectrum of participating FBS schools. The rules of the physical game on the field may still be the same from D1 all the way through D3, but it's clear the very top monied programs need to operate under a new constitution. Unless neverending whining and brutally raw capitalism is the end result all these universities want...which is precisely what the ESPN and other networks actually want.
 

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