Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[BoxsterCy]

You guys want to talk the red versus blue politics of all of this, well, take it to the cave.

Deleted the political chatter here today and next stop is timeouts.

 

[HFCS]

We’d need to send this to the cave to cover why it’s a tough road to getting any action on realignment and TV rights market, but I expect we’ll hear even more talk and proposals. That’s politics 101

Honestly I thought they hinted at it well in today's podcast without getting political.

The truth is on this issue you probably do need both parties to balance things out in terms of rights of the players and health of the sport/traditions. We're talking about over 90% of these programs are wrapped up in state government inherently.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Honestly I thought they hinted at it well in today's podcast without getting political.

The truth is on this issue you probably do need both parties to balance things out in terms of rights of the players and health of the sport/traditions. We're talking about over 90% of these programs are wrapped up in state government inherently.

Are you talking intervention on challenges to amateurism, or intervention on realignment/TV rights? They certainly impact each other, but the odds of federal intervention are different.

I’m much more optimistic that private money will seek to make a profit via exploiting the fact these schools and ADs are inherently non-profits, by creating a singular college sports entity….in an effort to make money, if PE or an Amazon type acquired enough long term rights of the top schools, they’d implement a spending cap, and the needless arms race of a prisoner’s dilemma is mitigated.

We’ve had all the bad associated with PE, in which everyone is out to get their money without regard to the health of sport. The primary ones that currently have economic incentive to care about the greater good (not necessarily individual schools) are arguably the networks that need it to remain popular enough this get ratings.

 

[ZorkClone]

I was scratching my head at this move until I found out the entire MAC media deal is $8 million total and they have to play football on Tuesdays and Wednesdays in late October and November.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Northern Illinois is PAYING the MW $2M to join. That's how bad things have gotten in the MAC.

I expect Northern Illinois parks its other sports in the Horizon League and keeps wrestling in the MAC.

 

[ZorkClone]

Northern Illinois is PAYING the MW $2M to join. That's how bad things have gotten in the MAC.

I expect Northern Illinois parks its other sports in the Horizon League and keeps wrestling in the MAC.

Would the MVC conference want them? They would be pretty in the middle of alot of those schools.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Would the MVC conference want them? They would be pretty in the middle of alot of those schools.

They don't have the budget, support or history of success to be a Valley candidate.

 

[12191987]

According to Blum on latest CW/Blum latest podcast, NCAA Administrators/President/ADs strongly believe GOP election sweep greatly increase the odds of Fed intervention at the Congressional and/or Judicial level if intervention is required to stop further realignment relegation, provide regulation of House Settlement terms. etc.

@brentblum: Can you elaborate?

 

[ZorkClone]

They don't have the budget, support or history of success to be a Valley candidate.

Just wondering what you mean by this? Just that they don't spend enough on BBall? They would be in the upper middle for MVC school spending. Which in itself is pretty surprising.

Rank	School	Conf	Total Revenue	Total Expenses
114	Missouri State	MVC	$29,915,772	$29,915,772
115	Illinois State	MVC	$29,899,837	$29,834,680
156	Southern Illinois	MVC	$18,739,324	$22,028,920
157	Indiana State	MVC	$18,656,224	$17,903,701
158	Murray State	MVC	$18,597,756	$19,210,384
162	Illinois-Chicago	MVC	$18,193,225	$19,336,276
170	Northern Iowa	MVC	$17,603,463	$19,819,613
143	Northern Illinois	MAC	$22,177,045	$24,097,387

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Just wondering what you mean by this? Just that they don't spend enough on BBall? They would be in the upper middle for MVC school spending. Which in itself is pretty surprising.

Rank	School	Conf	Total Revenue	Total Expenses
114	Missouri State	MVC	$29,915,772	$29,915,772
115	Illinois State	MVC	$29,899,837	$29,834,680
156	Southern Illinois	MVC	$18,739,324	$22,028,920
157	Indiana State	MVC	$18,656,224	$17,903,701
158	Murray State	MVC	$18,597,756	$19,210,384
162	Illinois-Chicago	MVC	$18,193,225	$19,336,276
170	Northern Iowa	MVC	$17,603,463	$19,819,613
143	Northern Illinois	MAC	$22,177,045	$24,097,387

Not apples to oranges. They play FBS football.

They're in the 300s in MBB spending and worse in other sports. They put every available dime into football.

 

[dafarmer]

Hate Texa$, but most of those players were in the BIG 12 last year, so in effect SEC has no one in the CFP finals.

 

[HFCS]

I was scratching my head at this move until I found out the entire MAC media deal is $8 million total and they have to play football on Tuesdays and Wednesdays in late October and November.

Did new pac ever get to its 8 team minimum? They were struggling to.

 

[ZorkClone]

Did new pac ever get to its 8 team minimum? They were struggling to.

I don't think so. The rumor mill is that they are waiting for a media evaluation to make a play at Memphis again, or failing that Texas State.

All in I'm pretty surprised they couldn't get UNLV or Air Force, really an embarrassing start for the new PAC.

 

[HFCS]

I don't think so. The rumor mill is that they are waiting for a media evaluation to make a play at Memphis again, or failing that Texas State.

All in I'm pretty surprised they couldn't get UNLV or Air Force, really an embarrassing start for the new PAC.

That’s what I thought but it gets surprisingly little reporting. I love those MWC teams saying “nah we’re good if you don’t want us all”.

As an nba fan it’s funny how Memphis has been “west” there too.

 

[cykadelic2]

So what is the basic premise behind the results of the election affecting college sports?

And you’d think a regular contributor (and representative of the collective) of all people would avoid violating the rules of this message board?

All he posted IIRC was that Presidents & ADs believe the GOP sweep will help facilitate changes to “help get CFB back to where it used to be” or needs to be.

And a mod deleted it for some reason.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

All he posted IIRC was that Presidents & ADs believe the GOP sweep will help facilitate changes to “help get CFB back to where it used to be” or needs to be.

And a mod deleted it for some reason.

I’m assuming it got deleted in anticipation of things tuning political, as people argued about if that would work and then it would rapidly devolve into the cave.

Appreciate the summary though

 

[12191987]

All he posted IIRC was that Presidents & ADs believe the GOP sweep will help facilitate changes to “help get CFB back to where it used to be” or needs to be.

And a mod deleted it for some reason.

Damn it. I’m curious about the reasoning/evidence to support the belief.

CFB is not at all a partisan issue, so presumably it has more to do with a single party controlling all the levers? Or maybe they’re just spouting off based on nothing?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Damn it. I’m curious about the reasoning/evidence to support the belief.

CFB is not at all a partisan issue, so presumably it has more to do with a single party controlling all the levers? Or maybe they’re just spouting off based on nothing?

I’m guessing the thought is CFB overwhelmingly affects the red states the most so with that transition and through that lens I get it. Might not reflect the actual institutions leanings but from a state perspective I get it even if I don’t agree with the logic

 

[heitclone]

I’m guessing the thought is CFB overwhelmingly affects the red states the most so with that transition and through that lens I get it. Might not reflect the actual institutions leanings but from a state perspective I get it even if I don’t agree with the logic

Weren't most of those states positively impacted by all of this though? Feels like the power of the sport moved even more into their hands. "Back to where it used to be" makes it seem like members of a league that got gutted like PAC might be unhappy.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Weren't most of those states positively impacted by all of this though? Feels like the power of the sport moved even more into their hands. "Back to where it used to be" makes it seem like members of a league that got gutted like PAC might be unhappy.

Yep that’s why said I don’t agree but I understand the take