Random Thoughts VIII: The Ocho

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We have not been there. Two of the families have been there, three have not.

We're staying at the Headwaters Lodge and Flagg Ranch in Grand Teton National Forest two miles south of Yellowstone for 4 nights (one day we are touring Grand Teton and one day we are touring the Jackson area) and then we are moving to a neighbor's boss's ranch in Cameron, MT for 2 nights. The ranch is only 40 minutes from Yellowstone so we could conceivably come back into the park for a day but there is supposed to be an "Old West" style town (Virginia City) near the ranch that is supposed to be pretty cool to see.

Thanks for the advice.

That sounds awesome, you guys will have a blast.

Going from Tetons to Mammoth would be a really long car trip, I wouldn't do it.

My suggestion would be to do Old Faithful / Geysers around there one day, and the Grand Canyon, Hayden Valley, West Thumb/lake area another day.

If it's warm and sunny, between Old Faithful and Madison there is a one-way road labeled as 'Firehole Canyon Drive'. There is a swimming hold there on the Firehole River that is awesome. There's a beach area with calm, warm water, and then just up river there are some rapids that you can float/slide down for older, more adventurous types. It's been a highlight both times I've been there.
 
Good to know about the mud volcanoes. It could be a good place to take a break on that Hayden Valley road. Where is the Morning Glory Pool? Which Geyser Basin did you like best? We're considering stopping at the West Thumb and Norris basins (Along with the Upper Basin. We do feel that we have to see Old Faithful).

Also, we could conceivably enter through the Northeast entrance and travel through the Lamar Valley. Has anybody traveled through it and have any advice? We have heard it has great wildlife but it is pretty isolated and it will add at least an hour to our travel time to our campground. If we do this, is it worth stopping to see the Tower Waterfall and petrified trees? (This will help us decide is we stay in Miles City or Billings on Saturday.

The Beartooth Hwy coming into the NE entrance from Billings/Red Lodge is absolutely breathtaking as you drive at over 10000ft for quite a ways. It feels like you are literally on top of the world, but it does take a while. I enjoyed that much more than anything in the NE corner of the park, but we didn't do the Tower Waterfall.
 
The Beartooth Hwy coming into the NE entrance from Billings/Red Lodge is absolutely breathtaking as you drive at over 10000ft for quite a ways. It feels like you are literally on top of the world, but it does take a while. I enjoyed that much more than anything in the NE corner of the park, but we didn't do the Tower Waterfall.
I've been hearing that when you travel on 212 you really understand the meaning of "Big Sky". Your post seems to back that up.
 
Good to know about the mud volcanoes. It could be a good place to take a break on that Hayden Valley road. Where is the Morning Glory Pool? Which Geyser Basin did you like best? We're considering stopping at the West Thumb and Norris basins (Along with the Upper Basin. We do feel that we have to see Old Faithful).

Also, we could conceivably enter through the Northeast entrance and travel through the Lamar Valley. Has anybody traveled through it and have any advice? We have heard it has great wildlife but it is pretty isolated and it will add at least an hour to our travel time to our campground. If we do this, is it worth stopping to see the Tower Waterfall and petrified trees? (This will help us decide is we stay in Miles City or Billings on Saturday.

According to what I was finding, Morning Glory is not as amazing as it used to be (stupid humans).

NorthernSectionUpperGeyserBasinMorningGloryPool.JPG

Mud volcanoes are #8 on the map on this link. They're a totally different type of formation than the water geysers. Warning: they are EXCEPTIONALLY STINKY (but my boys loved that part)...

http://www.yellowstonepark.com/yellowstone-geyser-basins-map/
 
CG checks in complaining about work. Her support group responds by talking about vacations and posting pictures.

I love all of you.


DH (and myself) would love to do a trip out there someday so I enjoy reading about it. Plus I just got back from vacation. Though I was dreading having to come back to the cluster this project is.
 
Yellowstone:

Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

I know you already have it planned but for anyone else I would encourage going during the shoulder season. You have a better chance of seeing things and traveling without having as much traffic and crowding at the attractions. You may have to deal with a little snow and some cooler weather but it is well worth it. We went to Wraith Falls one day and there was literally no one else there. It is away from the road and we actually got a taste of what it must have been like when Yellowstone first became a park. At several other attractions there were only one or two other families at the entire site.

Make sure if you go during "bear season" that you are prepared for restrictions on how you camp and outdoor cooking.
 
Yellowstone:

Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra

I know you already have it planned but for anyone else I would encourage going during the shoulder season. You have a better chance of seeing things and traveling without having as much traffic and crowding at the attractions. You may have to deal with a little snow and some cooler weather but it is well worth it. We went to Wraith Falls one day and there was literally no one else there. It is away from the road and we actually got a taste of what it must have been like when Yellowstone first became a park. At several other attractions there were only one or two other families at the entire site.

Make sure if you go during "bear season" that you are prepared for restrictions on how you camp and outdoor cooking.

How late in the fall? Old man Boxster may be doing some road tripping this fall.
 
Jellystone:

Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded. - Yogi Bear

I know you already have it planned but for anyone else I would encourage going during the shoulder season. You have a better chance of seeing things and traveling without having as much traffic and crowding at the attractions. You may have to deal with a little snow and some cooler weather but it is well worth it. We went to Wraith Falls one day and there was literally no one else there. It is away from the road and we actually got a taste of what it must have been like when Yellowstone first became a park. At several other attractions there were only one or two other families at the entire site.

Make sure if you go during "bear season" that you are prepared for restrictions on how you camp and outdoor cooking.
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And there was the shredding of the files. Burnin' up the shredder here today.

Cleaning out and tossing old files at work. Found my original calculations and notes from 1987 when I had to decide whether to stay in the old fed retirement program or transfer into the new FERS system. I ended up staying in the old program. In retrospect I think it would have been a push either way.

Also found some retirement calcs from 1998 with my retirement earning projections for a possible retirement in 2013. Included some colorful handwritten notes like “chicken ****” by the annual annuity projection. I grossly underestimated my career progress. Anyway, interesting financial planning archeology for me.
 
Speaking of vacations, we are doing Glacier and Banff the first two weeks in August. Much less time to explore than our Yellowstone trip last summer, but I am really looking forward to it. If anyone's been before, would love advice on the highlights.
 
Think I may go buy a new laptop. This POS is just running and running and running again. Did the reinstall of Windows 7 but now it is ****ed up again. Could be the Evil Empires way of forcing me into Windows 10.

Been putting that off for a while. My hinges that hold the screen to the base have separated the halves of the base. It loses power to the screen if not held together. I had a vice grips holding the left side down. (Tried super glue first - didn't work). Eventually it has dis-en-crinkulated the whole corner. Such that the vice grips doesn't hold anymore. Today I switched out the vice grips I had on there for a larger size.

Not so much that I'm cheap. I just hate going to a new computer.
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Speaking of vacations, we are doing Glacier and Banff the first two weeks in August. Much less time to explore than our Yellowstone trip last summer, but I am really looking forward to it. If anyone's been before, would love advice on the highlights.
I hear they are both really nice. A lot of people up here take the trip to Glacier by train. Also, I hear the unofficial city flower for Banff is Mary-Jane.
 
Been putting that off for a while. My hinges that hold the screen to the base have separated the halves of the base. It loses power to the screen if not held together. I had a vice grips holding the left side down. (Tried super glue first - didn't work). Eventually it has dis-en-crinkulated the whole corner. Such that the vice grips doesn't hold anymore. Today I switched out the vice grips I had on there for a larger size.

Not so much that I'm cheap. I just hate going to a new computer.
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HP Pavilion?
 
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