Random Thoughts 15: Crystal Clear 2021 Edition

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This reminds me of one Thanksgiving, the last one my parents let my grandma cook for. We showed up around 8:00 am to help her cook, and she informed us that we don't have to worry about the turkey, because she got up early and put it in the oven...at 4:00. We typically eat those holiday meals at 1:00, so that turkey was more than a bit on the dry side. It wasn't quite like the Griswold Christmas turkey, but we did go through more gravy than usual.

I took over cooking at Thanksgiving last your at the MIL's because I was bored making chit chat. I asked where her thermometer was to check the turkey. She didn't own one. She had always just looked at it to know when it was done. Which really meant that she over cooked it enough to be safe. It was at that moment that I decided that she would never ever cook for me again.
 
We figure to still be wearing masks post-vaccination...for how long, I'm not sure. Until WE feel comfortable not wearing them anymore, I guess.

There are some good preliminary studies that the vaccine cuts down transmission (as expected) but there needs to be some real finalization of that which will come eventually and more people need to get it so it's that much less likely to spread, which hopefully happens over the next 2-3 months.

I think all of my general circles will be vaxxed up by summer so if we get together in a yard or something it will be normal. Maybe stand far from each other but that's my 'normal' anyway.
 
There are some good preliminary studies that the vaccine cuts down transmission (as expected) but there needs to be some real finalization of that which will come eventually and more people need to get it so it's that much less likely to spread, which hopefully happens over the next 2-3 months.

I think all of my general circles will be vaxxed up by summer so if we get together in a yard or something it will be normal. Maybe stand far from each other but that's my 'normal' anyway.
We're huggers. And we have a small circle of friends our age who join us on day trips around Iowa in the RV. Outdoors, with like-minded friends who are vaccinated, probably no mask by summer. Outdoors in close contact with thousands of strangers, like at Jack Trice? Most likely, mask.
Indoors (or in the RV) with our group I will wear a mask for now - at least until all of us agree it is safe to take them off. Two of us are cancer survivors, one of us is currently on chemo, and two more have early cancer findings (pancreatic and CLL) which are currently in the "watch & wait, but no treatment necessary yet" stage. If covid ran through our group, it could be seriously life threatening to more than one of us.
 
We're huggers. And we have a small circle of friends our age who join us on day trips around Iowa in the RV. Outdoors, with like-minded friends who are vaccinated, probably no mask by summer. Outdoors in close contact with thousands of strangers, like at Jack Trice? Most likely, mask.
Indoors (or in the RV) with our group I will wear a mask for now - at least until all of us agree it is safe to take them off. Two of us are cancer survivors, one of us is currently on chemo, and two more have early cancer findings (pancreatic and CLL) which are currently in the "watch & wait, but no treatment necessary yet" stage. If covid ran through our group, it could be seriously life threatening to more than one of us.
Stop throwing reason into this - just stop. Reason doesn't belong in science.








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We're huggers. And we have a small circle of friends our age who join us on day trips around Iowa in the RV. Outdoors, with like-minded friends who are vaccinated, probably no mask by summer. Outdoors in close contact with thousands of strangers, like at Jack Trice? Most likely, mask.
Indoors (or in the RV) with our group I will wear a mask for now - at least until all of us agree it is safe to take them off. Two of us are cancer survivors, one of us is currently on chemo, and two more have early cancer findings (pancreatic and CLL) which are currently in the "watch & wait, but no treatment necessary yet" stage. If covid ran through our group, it could be seriously life threatening to more than one of us.
So now huggers is code for swingers? I gotta keep up.
 
I really don't like it when people totally cater to kids' developing palates - palates that won't develop when you refuse to nudge kids to continue to try new things and to occasionally eat things that aren't their favorite. You are really condemning them to a lifetime of bland and unexciting. And the worst part is they will never understand what they are missing.

So I didn't dislike what you wrote but rather what they are doing to that kid. If I had quit when I was a kid (even though I was anything but picky), I would today not eat things like maple syrup and cottage cheese. But because I was encouraged to keep trying I learned to like and eventually love these foods and so many others.

Some of us are bland and dull. Nothing wrong with that.
Gotta feed kids what they'll actually eat. That's really not a bad thing.
 
DD and SIL, I think, are trying to expand their little ones' palates. They already are aware of some textural issues (similar to why I won't eat very ripe bananas) and that's good. However, when they want to invite ideas for the next meal, SIL especially will say, "What do you want for lunch/dinner?" And 4-year-old will answer. And SIL will say, "No, we just had that." Or "No, we're not having that." 4-year-old tries to think really hard about how to answer. SIL decides food anyway.

I've suggested that if they want to ask, give a choice instead of an open-ended question. Most of the time the kid doesn't get what he wants. "Would you like grilled cheese or a quesadilla?" is much easier to answer because you have two choices, both of which are possible.

And I remember that as kids ourselves we didn't get asked what we wanted to eat.
 
My appetite anecdote from years past: I'd say "I'm hungry." My Dad would say, "There's bread and butter." I'd reply, "Ugh." Dad's comeback? "I guess you're not really very hungry then."

Of course he was right. Americans eat out of habit, not out of hunger. And I'm not prescribing to anyone how to raise their kids......I just grew up in a home where you either ate what was on your plate, or you went hungry. Some things (lima beans, liver, etc) we didn't have to eat a lot of, but we had to try it.

Weird part is, there are many things I eat as an adult that I absolutely hated as a kid.
 
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I took over cooking at Thanksgiving last your at the MIL's because I was bored making chit chat. I asked where her thermometer was to check the turkey. She didn't own one. She had always just looked at it to know when it was done. Which really meant that she over cooked it enough to be safe. It was at that moment that I decided that she would never ever cook for me again.
My mother was one that was raised believing you cooked a turkey until it was dead. About 190. My Weber wireless meat probe still has poultry at 180. If I use it for poultry I set it to beef well done and then just watch it until it gets to 165 (I usually do 170) as it seems the thighs take a bit longer than the breast which is where I put the probe.
 
My appetite anecdote from years past: I'd say "I'm hungry." My Dad would say, "There's bread and butter." I'd reply, "Ugh." Dad's comeback? "I guess you're not really very hungry then."

Of course he was right. Americans eat out of habit, not out of hunger. And I'm not prescribing to anyone how to raise their kids......I just grew up in a home where you either ate what was on your plate, or you went hungry. Some things (lima beans, liver, etc) we didn't have to eat a lot of, but we had to try it.

Weird part is, there are many things I eat as an adult that I absolutely hated as a kid.
Yes, we ate what mom cooked. We all swore we would never eat liver as adults and I don't think any of us do.
 
Never had liver. Refuse to eat cauliflower due to having it growing up.

We do our best at the you eat what we eat or you don't eat thing. I grew up with the clean your plate thing which MrsWx doesn't like and I see that. What I hate is the "I am full" and then wanting snacks an hour later. Helll naw you get back up and finish your dinner.
 
Never had liver. Refuse to eat cauliflower due to having it growing up.

We do our best at the you eat what we eat or you don't eat thing. I grew up with the clean your plate thing which MrsWx doesn't like and I see that. What I hate is the "I am full" and then wanting snacks an hour later. Helll naw you get back up and finish your dinner.

We don't necessarily do the clean your plate thing, but it really grinds my gears when the kids take the last bread roll or something and then get full after one bite. I hate wasting food and they throw away a lot more than I like to because of stuff like that.
Mine are also notorious about getting full and then wanting snacks or dessert shortly after.
 
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I was a kid that liked most of the vegetables kids don't like. (Carrots, peas, beans, broccoli) My sister, not so much. So my mom instituted the "No, thank you" helping. You have to have green beans, but only four...or six to eight peas. Worked pretty well.

Question for the parents who have/had kids that won't eat specific foods, particularly vegetables. I'm assuming you fed them baby food, which is all pureed basically. Did any of your kids like the baby food, but not like the "real" food, or vice versa?

Although, nowadays, the combinations they put together for baby food make me really question what the manufacturer was thinking.
 
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